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MKCPFC Spain/MK 24 Sep 17 12.51am | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
You off your head Brauny? He was s***e. Got lucky to inherit a well drilled and fit team left behind by Pullis and carried on by Warnock. He then cut so many corners and did things in a slap dash manner and vehthing else went out the window. Was absolute crap. Go to agree with this. I get the impression that there are many 'fans' on here that want to see Roy fail to prove that they were not wrong about how bad Pardew and Frank were.
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Flash Lampeter 24 Sep 17 1.21am | |
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Pardew? Why the hell are people posting about him now? He's not just gone, but long gone. We must surely have moved on by now.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 24 Sep 17 5.25am | |
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People have very short memories if they genuinely want the Pardew days back. For a variety of reasons I don't believe that he was training the squad properly and I am certain we would have gone down with him. Thank God we pulled the trigger in time for Sam to turn things round.
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The Dolphin 24 Sep 17 5.48am | |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
We would have been relegated under Pardew last season. The game against Swansea was absolute proof of that. Look how long it took the players to start performing after Allardyce came in, there was a rot in the club.What needed to happen was for Big Sam to stay and for there to be a serious injection of funds into the squad, moving out players who were not good enough or had been underperforming. When he left the club made a bold and what seemed to be a progressive appointment, but failed to be bold and progressive in the transfer market. The idea that a team who stayed up by the skin of their teeth playing fairly direct football could evolve into a possession based team playing 3 at the back smacked of as much arrogance as FDB showed playing 2 kids on their debuts in defence against Huddersfield. We all knew that money needed to be spent and despite good loan signings and Jairo, who I think may turn good, players like Puncheon, Hennessey, Ward, Sako and Ladapo had to be upgraded. This is not a business where you can paper over the cracks because it catches up with you eventually. Look what happened at Sunderland, they kept bodging it and eventually the whole thing collapsed. With the American investment and the continued revenue from the Premier League there is absolutely no excuse for the club not to have spent big this summer to back the new manager. It happened last year when despite bringing in Andros, Tomkins and Benteke we were still thin in areas and we had to invest in January. Lessons have not been learnt, it is far better and cheaper to build the squad over the summer period than in January when prices are inflated (£13m for Schlupp) and frankly we may be so far adrift by then that players will not come here anyway. I'm absolutely gutted by what is happening, I'm not expecting us to be a top 8 team but after 5 years in the league we should have developed far more than we have and that has to be put down to the management at the club. We have little identity on the pitch and 6 games in have 32 more games of a relegation battle nailed on, our 5th relegation battle in 5 years and one that is looking very difficult to get out of. I don't think Parish should go but I think there are serious questions to be asked and I think he needs to answer them. Top post!
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manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 24 Sep 17 7.15am | |
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Pardew was on a downward slope for ages,the unbelievably strange subitutions and the comment about not worrying about defence proved that he didn't know how to substain momentum, or the know how to push and direct our football to a different style of play. I really don't think that we have employed a creative manager since the days of Steve Coppell. I personally would love to see a manager in the mould of Pochettino, ( Thomas Christiansen) at the helm, but as we all know they are few and far between and they also need time.
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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 24 Sep 17 8.09am | |
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I think some misunderstood, I don't want pardew back. I'm just stating ATM, it's currently worse than his 2016 spell. Therefore it's the gutless and spineless players to blame.
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VinceHilaire London 24 Sep 17 8.24am | |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
We would have been relegated under Pardew last season. The game against Swansea was absolute proof of that. Look how long it took the players to start performing after Allardyce came in, there was a rot in the club.What needed to happen was for Big Sam to stay and for there to be a serious injection of funds into the squad, moving out players who were not good enough or had been underperforming. When he left the club made a bold and what seemed to be a progressive appointment, but failed to be bold and progressive in the transfer market. The idea that a team who stayed up by the skin of their teeth playing fairly direct football could evolve into a possession based team playing 3 at the back smacked of as much arrogance as FDB showed playing 2 kids on their debuts in defence against Huddersfield. We all knew that money needed to be spent and despite good loan signings and Jairo, who I think may turn good, players like Puncheon, Hennessey, Ward, Sako and Ladapo had to be upgraded. This is not a business where you can paper over the cracks because it catches up with you eventually. Look what happened at Sunderland, they kept bodging it and eventually the whole thing collapsed. With the American investment and the continued revenue from the Premier League there is absolutely no excuse for the club not to have spent big this summer to back the new manager. It happened last year when despite bringing in Andros, Tomkins and Benteke we were still thin in areas and we had to invest in January. Lessons have not been learnt, it is far better and cheaper to build the squad over the summer period than in January when prices are inflated (£13m for Schlupp) and frankly we may be so far adrift by then that players will not come here anyway. I'm absolutely gutted by what is happening, I'm not expecting us to be a top 8 team but after 5 years in the league we should have developed far more than we have and that has to be put down to the management at the club. We have little identity on the pitch and 6 games in have 32 more games of a relegation battle nailed on, our 5th relegation battle in 5 years and one that is looking very difficult to get out of. I don't think Parish should go but I think there are serious questions to be asked and I think he needs to answer them. Sadly, have to agree. Though I look at what is happening to Sunderland at the moment and I am worried.
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linguini UK 24 Sep 17 8.56am | |
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In my opinion Pardew needed the January Window to sort out the defence, especially left back. I am not at all convinced we would have been relegated. But it is history.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 24 Sep 17 9.02am | |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
We would have been relegated under Pardew last season. The game against Swansea was absolute proof of that. Look how long it took the players to start performing after Allardyce came in, there was a rot in the club.What needed to happen was for Big Sam to stay and for there to be a serious injection of funds into the squad, moving out players who were not good enough or had been underperforming. When he left the club made a bold and what seemed to be a progressive appointment, but failed to be bold and progressive in the transfer market. The idea that a team who stayed up by the skin of their teeth playing fairly direct football could evolve into a possession based team playing 3 at the back smacked of as much arrogance as FDB showed playing 2 kids on their debuts in defence against Huddersfield. We all knew that money needed to be spent and despite good loan signings and Jairo, who I think may turn good, players like Puncheon, Hennessey, Ward, Sako and Ladapo had to be upgraded. This is not a business where you can paper over the cracks because it catches up with you eventually. Look what happened at Sunderland, they kept bodging it and eventually the whole thing collapsed. With the American investment and the continued revenue from the Premier League there is absolutely no excuse for the club not to have spent big this summer to back the new manager. It happened last year when despite bringing in Andros, Tomkins and Benteke we were still thin in areas and we had to invest in January. Lessons have not been learnt, it is far better and cheaper to build the squad over the summer period than in January when prices are inflated (£13m for Schlupp) and frankly we may be so far adrift by then that players will not come here anyway. I'm absolutely gutted by what is happening, I'm not expecting us to be a top 8 team but after 5 years in the league we should have developed far more than we have and that has to be put down to the management at the club. We have little identity on the pitch and 6 games in have 32 more games of a relegation battle nailed on, our 5th relegation battle in 5 years and one that is looking very difficult to get out of. I don't think Parish should go but I think there are serious questions to be asked and I think he needs to answer them. not if he had been afforded the money crooked sam was, i would also argue he wouldnt have wasted £24m on pva & schlupp
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chateauferret 24 Sep 17 9.02am | |
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Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC
I think some misunderstood, I don't want pardew back. I'm just stating ATM, it's currently worse than his 2016 spell. Therefore it's the gutless and spineless players to blame. So Pardew is the only s*** manager on the planet, then. Zat right? A couple of the players need a kick up the arse right enough but some others look outstanding.
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Jacey 24 Sep 17 9.05am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
People have very short memories if they genuinely want the Pardew days back. For a variety of reasons I don't believe that he was training the squad properly and I am certain we would have gone down with him. Thank God we pulled the trigger in time for Sam to turn things round. Sam did a brilliant job and our inevitable demise from the top flight was postponed until this season, due to lack of investment in key areas and 'muddled' thinking with poor decisions by Parish.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 24 Sep 17 9.08am | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
You off your head Brauny? He was s***e. Got lucky to inherit a well drilled and fit team left behind by Pullis and carried on by Warnock. He then cut so many corners and did things in a slap dash manner and vehthing else went out the window. Was absolute crap. brent, your making yourself look like a right wally (again) by sticking up for those 2 snakes in pulis & warnock over pardew. shows your true colours fella, which will probably by blue & white next season if we get relegated
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