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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 1.17am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
But what I really want to know Nick is....Are you Kekistan? ?
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 youngpalacefan111 18 Sep 17 1.25am |
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Pepe the frog Nick. [Link]
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Sep 17 10.06am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And free speech is again under threat from your cuddly antifa morons. With Bannon and others like Milo coming we will see what happens.....Last year those antifa morons used violence to close down Milo's speech at Berkerly and now this looks like funded payback. Free speech....thanks to activist progressivism.....is now a majority right wing position. Free speech is under attack not from the right but regularly from the progressive left......'Words are violence' deplatforming speakers....causing violence at speeches....costing organisations so much trouble and money on security arrangements that the speeches get cancelled. It was always going to get a reaction. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Sep 2017 9.51pm) I wouldn't call antifa progressive or the progressive left by a long way. But before we get to the 'only the right are free speech' lets not forget that the 'alt right', which has used death threats, rape threats, cyber bullying etc against people who they disagree with. And of course that he represents (and effectively is) Brietbart, a system of media that replaces facts with 'faction', and sees free speech as a means of undermining value of news media - Effectively free speech as a means of propaganda to undermine the value of speech. But your right, the best means of protest is to make sure your represented in the audience, and ask the difficult questions. It annoyed me no end that when the BNP were on Question Time - all of the questions revolved around Nazis and Fascism. If you get these people on the facts and things like actual policy, they you can rip them to pieces and make them look stupid and bigoted - running them round and round in circles.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Sep 17 10.07am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What was it? Pizza gate or something. Great right wing trolling.....some of them even took it seriously, which was a bit worrying. People turned up at the restaurant, with firearms, and shots were fired. That's not trolling, that incitement. That's not freedom of speech - that's a criminal act - People could have been killed.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Sep 17 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
People turned up at the restaurant, with firearms, and shots were fired. That's not trolling, that incitement. That's not freedom of speech - that's a criminal act - People could have been killed. As a percentage of the people involved that's a tiny fraction.....As I remember you don't seem to have an issue with that for other situations. The numbers involved over pizza gate won't be rising as a percentage of the population will they.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Sep 17 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
? It's identity politics parody.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 2.51pm |
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Im more issues politics rather than identity which is why it was a whoooosh
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| Stirlingsays 18 Sep 17 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Im more issues politics rather than identity which is why it was a whoooosh Did you watch the video?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 3.28pm |
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Not yet. Working.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Sep 17 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As a percentage of the people involved that's a tiny fraction.....As I remember you don't seem to have an issue with that for other situations. The numbers involved over pizza gate won't be rising as a percentage of the population will they. Its a bit different when someone turns up with a gun as a result and peoples lives a threatened. Free speech doesn't protect people from the consequences of actions that incite, knowingly or not, criminal acts. I have an issue, and so should you, about people who completely fabricate false stories for political gain and then attempt to avoid any responsibility for their actions claiming it was a joke or a hoax And it was a hoax that just happened to occur during the election of 2016, and be about democrats - that also got traction on the usual alt-right news circuit (that bemoans so much fake news) with no attempt to verify the story. That's not free speech, that reckless endangerment. The restaurant, its owners, and businesses around it received a barrage of threats. Fake News, regardless of who is behind it politically, should not be accepted as free speech. It has very real ramifications for people in society.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Sep 17 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As a percentage of the people involved that's a tiny fraction.....As I remember you don't seem to have an issue with that for other situations. The numbers involved over pizza gate won't be rising as a percentage of the population will they. Yeah but you do realise that I also believe in holding that tiny fraction accountable for their actions. I don't have a problem with Islam or Muslims, but those who are engaged in terrorism or providing material support to terrorism or recruiting for terrorism, I have a massive issue with - and believe should feel the full weight of the law - and where necessary extra-judicial actions are warrented. I don't believe that tiny fraction shouldn't be held accountable. I just have an issue with the idea that everyone else should be.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Sep 17 4.16pm |
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Waddaloadas***e. What does it have to do with the price of kippers?
Edited by nickgusset (18 Sep 2017 4.19pm)
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