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 Stirlingsays  08 Sep 17 6.32pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
How dare you! I have never voted Tory. My head is held high. Yours shouldn't be if it is. It's your lot that have been managing the country for 75% of the time these last four decades. You are to blame.
Cameron was and is pro EU. Like Nick, you play a dishonest game...he called ma a Nazi the other night...but with you it's in respect to the EU and the Tories. It's like me blaming Tony Blair's foreign policy on you because you're left wing and he led Labour. Exactly the same nonsense argument and you do yourself no credit in pushing it. Many right wingers on here dislike people in the Tory leadership just as much as you probably do....but the reasons are different. People vote Tory because if they don't then they get socialists....and now actual real communists. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2017 6.34pm)
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| Stirlingsays 08 Sep 17 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not sure if celebrated was the right word. Played this a few times though. So you don't think 'celebrate' is the right word but you played a song a lot that talks about 'dancing and singing all night' about her death. Yeah ok Nick.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Sep 17 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Not in the slightest, but teachers have to teach British values now, as if they are separate from values elsewhere. what message does that give? That some 'communities' do not share those values?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Sep 17 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So you don't think 'celebrate' is the right word but you played a song a lot that talks about 'dancing and singing all night' about her death. Yeah ok Nick. Why do you think she is so hated?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Sep 17 6.51pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You have shared in some of their policy beliefs. Cameron was and is pro EU. Like Nick, you play a dishonest game...he called ma a Nazi the other night...but with you it's in respect to the EU and the Tories. It's like me blaming Tony Blair's foreign policy on you because you're left wing and he led Labour. Exactly the same nonsense argument and you do yourself no credit in pushing it. Many right wingers on here dislike people in the Tory leadership just as much as you probably do....but the reasons are different. People vote Tory because if they don't then they get socialists....and now actual real communists. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2017 6.34pm) This is correct. None of the governments since after Thatcher can be described as right wing.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Sep 17 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
That some 'communities' do not share those values? Britain first, the edl, Tories, courts of justice? [Link]
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| Stirlingsays 08 Sep 17 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Why do you think she is so hated? All conviction politicians are hated....but they are also the only politicians who get things done. All that 'hate' stuff is fueled by 'entitlement' mindsets over what people think the state should be. It's very inappropriate in my view. Thatcher did things I wouldn't have...but she was on the right of the party. I don't 'hate' Corbyn, I just disagree with him on important areas.......Even at seeing him talking with the IRA though at a time when they would have happily murdered by soldier brother.
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| simlaboy coulsdon 08 Sep 17 6.59pm |
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Ah, David Lammy the male equivalent of Dianne Abbott , if you don't indulge in criminal activities you don't attract the attention of the justice system, simples
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| Stirlingsays 08 Sep 17 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by simlaboy
Ah, David Lammy the male equivalent of Dianne Abbott , if you don't indulge in criminal activities you don't attract the attention of the justice system, simples What's he been up to? I use to quite like David Lammy....said some silly things about Brexit and Grenfell tower since then though. Oh...I see...he's the article writer....Oh my Lord....Lammy....what are you doing my lad! Looking for a shadow position by the looks of it. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2017 7.05pm)
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leifandersonshair  Newport 08 Sep 17 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
That some 'communities' do not share those values? Quite right. And those 'communities' should be first in line for deportation- the EDL, Britain First supporting, work shy Jeremy Kyle crowd. Certainly don't share 'British values', do they? Don't particularly care where they go, but would happily swap them for a hard working immigrant. Maybe some kind of exchange program is in order?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Sep 17 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What's he been up to? I use to quite like David Lammy....said some silly things about Brexit and Grenfell tower since then though. Oh...I see...he's the article writer....Oh my Lord....Lammy....what are you doing my lad! Looking for a shadow position by the looks of it. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2017 7.05pm) Been on the news all day about this. [Link]
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| Pete53 Hassocks 08 Sep 17 7.08pm |
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My concern with the large volumes of immigration over recent years is not so much about who the immigrants are, but just the sheer numbers and the effect on our environment this is having I believe that Britain is one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. When I was a young lad in the 1950s I recall our population was around 50 million. It is now somewhere in the region of 65 million. Such growth in numbers is resulting in an ever growing need for more space and in particular housing. Towns and cities keep on expanding with more congestion , more traffic, more pollution and a decline in the quality of life for many people. There is increasing pressure to find land to build housing on and green spaces that were previously protected are in danger of being opened up for development, with the resulting threat to wildlife, and a reduction in open spaces for people to enjoy. I just don't think we can go on shoehorning more and more people into the country without it having a seriously adverse effect on our surroundings and resources.
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