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moylerg Flag Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 27 Aug 17 1.13pm Send a Private Message to moylerg Add moylerg as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Er actually they are exactly the same thing

"Define Coward
a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person. "
dictionary.com

Well, they are timid at least, scared of something, need do need a reaonalbly hard kick up the arse. Complacent bunch, I think FDB has shown them far too much respect, To date.

 


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bodge Flag 27 Aug 17 3.00pm Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

FDB came to a club being told we had great support and got booed after one game. He was appointed to change our style and give youth a chance knowing he would have the supporters behind him we have let him.

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 27 Aug 17 4.19pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend


Maybe his biggest mistake is joining us in the first place, maybe Fat Sam knew what was coming, that his 5 months in charge was as good as it's going to get with this squad and with SP tightening the purse strings. I have been shocked HOW bad we've been, no energy, no pace, no penetration, slow, laboured and predictable!! That's without the feck ups at the back. Is that all down to the manager?? I don't think so, could be players on good money who've slipped back into easy street after avoiding the drop again!!!

 

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glazedallover Flag Allier 27 Aug 17 4.28pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Originally posted by monkey


Maybe his biggest mistake is joining us in the first place, maybe Fat Sam knew what was coming, that his 5 months in charge was as good as it's going to get with this squad and with SP tightening the purse strings. I have been shocked HOW bad we've been, no energy, no pace, no penetration, slow, laboured and predictable!! That's without the feck ups at the back. Is that all down to the manager?? I don't think so, could be players on good money who've slipped back into easy street after avoiding the drop again!!!

Good post.

I just listened again to that post match Q & A posted on here and nothing he said seemed unreasonable to me. We were allegledy playing 532 like swansea, hardly a formation that is alien to us. However, passing to another team mate seems to be...

He needs to sort his best X1 out quicly, hopefully with some dect reinforcements.

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 27 Aug 17 5.20pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by glazedallover

Good post.

I just listened again to that post match Q & A posted on here and nothing he said seemed unreasonable to me. We were allegledy playing 532 like swansea, hardly a formation that is alien to us. However, passing to another team mate seems to be...

He needs to sort his best X1 out quicly, hopefully with some dect reinforcements.

I agree, whatever formation we play we surely shouldn't be this bad!! Allardyce had shockers with this same group of players, home to swansea and Sunderland and away at West Ham and Man City before he got a few results to keep us up!
Our bad start can't just be down to De Boer I'm afraid, but it's easier for fans to blame him rather than their hero's they've got printed on the back of their shirts!!!

Edited by monkey (27 Aug 2017 5.22pm)

 

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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 27 Aug 17 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

I agree, whatever formation we play we surely shouldn't be this bad!! Allardyce had shockers with this same group of players, home to swansea and Sunderland and away at West Ham and Man City before he got a few results to keep us up!
Our bad start can't just be down to De Boer I'm afraid, but it's easier for fans to blame him rather than their hero's they've got printed on the back of their shirts!!!

Edited by monkey (27 Aug 2017 5.22pm)

Exactly. We looked a different side after going 2 down but with basically the same team playing the same formation. It's amazing what a bit if urgency, a change in pace and the balls to actually have a go made.

Yes, the manager should be able to get them organised and playing but it's the 11 that are on the pitch that ultimately have the biggest influence.

The whole Punch situation isn't helping. I'm sure FdB was told he's Mr CPFC and that has influenced decisions based on his relationship with the players however, he doesn't fit in our best 11. I think he's been brilliant for the Club but now is not his time. If Cabaye had come for Punch rather than Luka yesterday I reckon we'd have been much more likely to claw something back.


Edited by Nobbybm (27 Aug 2017 7.46pm)

 


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01CPFC Flag central coast NSW (The Mariners Mi... 27 Aug 17 7.52pm

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Exactly. We looked a different side after going 2 down but with basically the same team playing the same formation. It's amazing what a bit if urgency, a change in pace and the balls to actually have a go made.

Swansea were just defending their 2 goal lead with a guaranteed 3 points. If they wanted they could of attacked and easily scored 5.
We are heading one way fast.To the Championship we go,Andros to Leicester,Christian to ??????,Mila to Watford etc etc
I think Steve has celebrity status now,time to cash in
before it is to late.
COYP

 


Where is the Joker shown, I haven't used it ?

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radicalsteve Flag ottawa 27 Aug 17 8.23pm Send a Private Message to radicalsteve Add radicalsteve as a friend

I've been watching this club for close to 60 years. I don't ever recall us being in the top flight long enough to establish ourselves as a top ten club. Always in a dog fight, always having less possession and consistently lurching from one crisis to another. I concur that BFS saw the writing on the wall and decided it was too much of a gamble for this season.

Something has to change if we want to remain a competitive outfit in the top flight and our so called DNA wouldn't appear to be the right strategy for building a competitive club imho. A change in strategy to make us competitive is required. Unfortunately, we probably do not have the right resources across the board to be that top ten club. Certainly our first team squad does not have the right balance, leadership, communication or desire.

We are South London, we need fighting spirit first and foremost with a balanced squad who can play as a team and leverage the strengths we have on the pitch. Defensively we are at sea, our midfield can't hold or distribute the ball properly and our forwards don't run into open space.

FDB has to be given a chance to make a strategic change and SP and the board has to provide him the resources. As fans, we have to be patient and accept that a rebuild is required to provide a strong foundation for the future if we want Premier League football at Selhurst Park . Survival is not a strategy; being competitive is. What makes us any different from QPR, or Fulham for example? Only quality, leadership and teamwork will differentiate us in the long term. That means a better development squad, stronger depth in the first team, PLF experience and the personalities on the pitch who have the brains, the heart and the guts to prevail. That's our DNA, not hoofing the ball up the field to WIlf and CB in the hope they can make something out of nothing. I miss Bolasie; he gave us the balance with Wilf to strike terror in the hearts of the opposition - these days we are cannon fodder.

I'm sorry for such a rant, its not that hard, we seem to making it hard though by not dealing with the brutal facts and trying to paper over the cracks every week. It was touch and go last season ...... something has to change in a substantive way and that might take quite a while to get it right.......

 

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Aray Flag South London 27 Aug 17 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by radicalsteve

I've been watching this club for close to 60 years. I don't ever recall us being in the top flight long enough to establish ourselves as a top ten club. Always in a dog fight, always having less possession and consistently lurching from one crisis to another. I concur that BFS saw the writing on the wall and decided it was too much of a gamble for this season.

Something has to change if we want to remain a competitive outfit in the top flight and our so called DNA wouldn't appear to be the right strategy for building a competitive club imho. A change in strategy to make us competitive is required. Unfortunately, we probably do not have the right resources across the board to be that top ten club. Certainly our first team squad does not have the right balance, leadership, communication or desire.

We are South London, we need fighting spirit first and foremost with a balanced squad who can play as a team and leverage the strengths we have on the pitch. Defensively we are at sea, our midfield can't hold or distribute the ball properly and our forwards don't run into open space.

FDB has to be given a chance to make a strategic change and SP and the board has to provide him the resources. As fans, we have to be patient and accept that a rebuild is required to provide a strong foundation for the future if we want Premier League football at Selhurst Park . Survival is not a strategy; being competitive is. What makes us any different from QPR, or Fulham for example? Only quality, leadership and teamwork will differentiate us in the long term. That means a better development squad, stronger depth in the first team, PLF experience and the personalities on the pitch who have the brains, the heart and the guts to prevail. That's our DNA, not hoofing the ball up the field to WIlf and CB in the hope they can make something out of nothing. I miss Bolasie; he gave us the balance with Wilf to strike terror in the hearts of the opposition - these days we are cannon fodder.

I'm sorry for such a rant, its not that hard, we seem to making it hard though by not dealing with the brutal facts and trying to paper over the cracks every week. It was touch and go last season ...... something has to change in a substantive way and that might take quite a while to get it right.......

Great post. All this bollox about the players being called cowards. Well where I sit we've all noted how nice Palace are. My view is they need to man up. How the feck did Huddersfield get away with kicking Wilf to pieces the other day?

But he is fecking it up.

My main issue with Frankie is that he plays Punch in the midfield. Him and Luka simply ain't a functioning unit. He's a left winger or a No 10 at a push. .

My second issue is 3:4:3 when we don't have a RWB.

 

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chateauferret Flag 27 Aug 17 9.13pm

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Exactly. We looked a different side after going 2 down but with basically the same team playing the same formation. It's amazing what a bit if urgency, a change in pace and the balls to actually have a go made.

Yes, the manager should be able to get them organised and playing but it's the 11 that are on the pitch that ultimately have the biggest influence.

The whole Punch situation isn't helping. I'm sure FdB was told he's Mr CPFC and that has influenced decisions based on his relationship with the players however, he doesn't fit in our best 11. I think he's been brilliant for the Club but now is not his time. If Cabaye had come for Punch rather than Luka yesterday I reckon we'd have been much more likely to claw something back.


Edited by Nobbybm (27 Aug 2017 7.46pm)

One of the acid tests for him in the next few weeks will be whether he has the bollocks to call Emperor's new clothes on this player. Hasn't performed for ages and hasn't performed in the matches he's played so far this season, will he see that others should be starting in front of him, or will he just go with the flow and keep picking him out of what amounts to tradition?

 


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nimblehippo Flag 27 Aug 17 9.23pm Send a Private Message to nimblehippo Add nimblehippo as a friend

Originally posted by Wurzeleagle

He didn't call the players cowards. Speaking in a language that is not his own he said they lacked courage. It's a different thing and I suspect the players - who he spoke to first - understood what he means.

What? Sensible opinion on this board - get outta here!

 

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redshift Flag Toronto 27 Aug 17 9.38pm Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

After listening to FDB's after game it's pretty obvious, to my way of thinking, that given he's speaking his second language he meant 'confidence on the ball' and that 'courage on the ball' was just an unfortunate choice of words. Hopefully the players got the true message when he talked to them.
Course he uses the word courage a bit much but I still think he means confidence.

Edited by redshift (27 Aug 2017 9.40pm)

 


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