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EddieMac 15 Aug 17 12.39pm
I am praying FDB works out for us. My major concerns are: He has had 6 full weeks with those and it was like they met for the first time on Saturday. Surely 6 weeks is enough time to get fairly comfortable with a system. Why wait till opening game of the season and throw Ward to the wolves by playing him wing back. He should never have started Fosu Mensah and Riedewald with Dann at the back. They are far from ready at the moment, Id have rathered Ward Dann Schlupp as a back 3 with Townsend as Wing back. Milivojevic was excellent for us last season and now he is been dragged out of position and looks a different player. I am all for giving youth a chance but FDB has to realise that this is not the Dutch league where the majority of teams are average and players get yards of space. We were very poor in every single game in pre season and now it has followed into the league. FDB see's this job as a project that needs time, but we havnt got time, After Swansea, Burnley Southhampton then we play Man Utd, City, Chelsea. We could end up being cast adrift by the end of September and then its panic stations. I fear for this season if this keeps up.
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EddieMac

15 Aug 17 12.39pm

I am praying FDB works out for us. My major concerns are:

He has had 6 full weeks with those and it was like they met for the first time on Saturday.

Surely 6 weeks is enough time to get fairly comfortable with a system.

Why wait till opening game of the season and throw Ward to the wolves by playing him wing back.

He should never have started Fosu Mensah and Riedewald with Dann at the back. They are far from ready at the moment,
Id have rathered Ward Dann Schlupp as a back 3 with Townsend as Wing back.

Milivojevic was excellent for us last season and now he is been dragged out of position and looks a different player.

I am all for giving youth a chance but FDB has to realise that this is not the Dutch league where the majority of teams are average and players get yards of space.

We were very poor in every single game in pre season and now it has followed into the league.

FDB see's this job as a project that needs time, but we havnt got time, After Swansea, Burnley Southhampton then we play Man Utd, City, Chelsea.

We could end up being cast adrift by the end of September and then its panic stations.

I fear for this season if this keeps up.

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Pete53 Hassocks 15 Aug 17 1.14pm
It does seem a bit crazy going over the top after one game , predicting doom and a return to the Championship after one defeat. The trouble is the game last Saturday encapsulated all those shortcomings that Palace have displayed on and off since our arrival in the Prem. in 2013. Poor passing, poor defending, poor crossing, lack of understanding between players, and losing at home to supposedly "lesser" sides. The things that have made survival a struggle in our four seasons at the top. We arrived at Selhurst on Saturday full of hope - a new manager, some new players, a sea of blue and red flags on the Holmesdale as the team came out, a great atmosphere, and an optimism (perhaps misplaced) that this might be a new dawn for Palace... and then, within 20 minutes, reality strikes home. Things haven't changed and we are back to normal service, if not worse. I think if we had played and competed better against Huddersfield and perhaps only lost by the odd goal then the reaction wouldn't have been so extreme. However, that wasn't the case - we were hapless and well-beaten by a Huddersfield team that many have predicted to go straight back down, but who looked a far superior and better organised outfit to us on the day.
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Hassocks 15 Aug 17 1.14pm

It does seem a bit crazy going over the top after one game , predicting doom and a return to the Championship after one defeat.

The trouble is the game last Saturday encapsulated all those shortcomings that Palace have displayed on and off since our arrival in the Prem. in 2013. Poor passing, poor defending, poor crossing, lack of understanding between players, and losing at home to supposedly "lesser" sides. The things that have made survival a struggle in our four seasons at the top.

We arrived at Selhurst on Saturday full of hope - a new manager, some new players, a sea of blue and red flags on the Holmesdale as the team came out, a great atmosphere, and an optimism (perhaps misplaced) that this might be a new dawn for Palace... and then, within 20 minutes, reality strikes home. Things haven't changed and we are back to normal service, if not worse.

I think if we had played and competed better against Huddersfield and perhaps only lost by the odd goal then the reaction wouldn't have been so extreme. However, that wasn't the case - we were hapless and well-beaten by a Huddersfield team that many have predicted to go straight back down, but who looked a far superior and better organised outfit to us on the day.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 15 Aug 17 1.26pm
Originally posted by Pete53 It does seem a bit crazy going over the top after one game , predicting doom and a return to the Championship after one defeat. The trouble is the game last Saturday encapsulated all those shortcomings that Palace have displayed on and off since our arrival in the Prem. in 2013. Poor passing, poor defending, poor crossing, lack of understanding between players, and losing at home to supposedly "lesser" sides. The things that have made survival a struggle in our four seasons at the top. We arrived at Selhurst on Saturday full of hope - a new manager, some new players, a sea of blue and red flags on the Holmesdale as the team came out, a great atmosphere, and an optimism (perhaps misplaced) that this might be a new dawn for Palace... and then, within 20 minutes, reality strikes home. Things haven't changed and we are back to normal service, if not worse. I think if we had played and competed better against Huddersfield and perhaps only lost by the odd goal then the reaction wouldn't have been so extreme. However, that wasn't the case - we were hapless and well-beaten by a Huddersfield team that many have predicted to go straight back down, but who looked a far superior and better organised outfit to us on the day. The plain fact is that we haven't seen a hapless display like that since the Swansea game and if we'd built on what Sam left us, rather than tearing it all up and starting again, there's a good chance we'd have notched up three points on Saturday. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 15 Aug 17 1.26pm

Originally posted by Pete53

It does seem a bit crazy going over the top after one game , predicting doom and a return to the Championship after one defeat.

The plain fact is that we haven't seen a hapless display like that since the Swansea game and if we'd built on what Sam left us, rather than tearing it all up and starting again, there's a good chance we'd have notched up three points on Saturday.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Aug 17 1.33pm
My main gripe is that we started last season with only one left back - who was then injured - which was pretty obvious for all to see. This season we have started with one striker which is pretty obvious for all to see: we seem to love making the same mistakes over and over again. How many times have I wondered if you need to be a masochist to be a Palace fan? Our squad is crap and very thin again and it seems we don't want to buy anyone else - or are just very slow. Losing 3-0 against a s*** side is unlikely to make any quality players come here any quicker either. I seriously hope FDB is pragmatic enough to change back to the 4-5-1 and stop pissing around. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Aug 17 1.33pm

My main gripe is that we started last season with only one left back - who was then injured - which was pretty obvious for all to see.
This season we have started with one striker which is pretty obvious for all to see: we seem to love making the same mistakes over and over again. How many times have I wondered if you need to be a masochist to be a Palace fan?
Our squad is crap and very thin again and it seems we don't want to buy anyone else - or are just very slow.
Losing 3-0 against a s*** side is unlikely to make any quality players come here any quicker either. I seriously hope FDB is pragmatic enough to change back to the 4-5-1 and stop pissing around.

Red and Blue Army!

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Crystal_Clear Belfast 15 Aug 17 1.43pm
Do you get the impression that CPFC simply didn't have a clue on who to hire after Sam walked out. ? It took long enough to find a replacement, and I wonder whether they just took FDB because he looked like the best out there at the time, without looking at the bigger picture (ie. we tried playing passing football last year and it almost got us relegated). I don't expect anything from the Liverpool game but we simply can't drop points the following games. But I don't expect to win them.
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Crystal_Clear

Belfast 15 Aug 17 1.43pm

Do you get the impression that CPFC simply didn't have a clue on who to hire after Sam walked out. ?

It took long enough to find a replacement, and I wonder whether they just took FDB because he looked like the best out there at the time, without looking at the bigger picture (ie. we tried playing passing football last year and it almost got us relegated).

I don't expect anything from the Liverpool game but we simply can't drop points the following games. But I don't expect to win them.

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rattus2002 15 Aug 17 1.46pm
Originally posted by Croydonlad So much tosh on here about " Oh its only one game " " Give him a chance " " Sam had 5 games before we were better " Blah Blah Blah Utter Nonsense And heres why Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe . FDB has got it ALL wrong We do not have players that can keep the ball , We have players that defend well ( better with Sakho ) and attack quickly We have never EVER been able to string more than 6 passes together , maybe briefly with Venables in the old second division , but thats it . The danger of giving FDB " a chance " or a " few games " is that we could very very easily LOSE every game and by December be 15 - 20 points adrift YES , thats the reality . Experiments and change is fine , but NOT in a division as lucrative as the Premier League I think we should get rid of FDB as soon as possible and get in a manger that plays simple football that our players are capable of playing !! I find your post bizarre along with many of the others who after 1 game or 90 minutes have mind their minds up that we are doomed. You mention that we have the players who defend well...can you point these out as i must have missed them last season. Our defending was poor apart from a small amount of games when we had a 105k a week loan signing.
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15 Aug 17 1.46pm

Originally posted by Croydonlad

So much tosh on here about
" Oh its only one game "
" Give him a chance "
" Sam had 5 games before we were better "

Blah Blah Blah
Utter Nonsense
And heres why

Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe .

FDB has got it ALL wrong
We do not have players that can keep the ball ,
We have players that defend well ( better with Sakho ) and attack quickly
We have never EVER been able to string more than 6 passes together , maybe briefly with Venables in the old second division , but thats it .
The danger of giving FDB " a chance " or a " few games " is that we could very very easily LOSE every game and by December be 15 - 20 points adrift
YES , thats the reality .
Experiments and change is fine , but NOT in a division as lucrative as the Premier League
I think we should get rid of FDB as soon as possible and get in a manger that plays simple football that our players are capable of playing !!

I find your post bizarre along with many of the others who after 1 game or 90 minutes have mind their minds up that we are doomed.

You mention that we have the players who defend well...can you point these out as i must have missed them last season. Our defending was poor apart from a small amount of games when we had a 105k a week loan signing.

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palacepolak Toronto 15 Aug 17 2.41pm
Originally posted by Croydonlad So much tosh on here about " Oh its only one game " " Give him a chance " " Sam had 5 games before we were better " Blah Blah Blah Utter Nonsense And heres why Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe . FDB has got it ALL wrong We do not have players that can keep the ball , We have players that defend well ( better with Sakho ) and attack quickly We have never EVER been able to string more than 6 passes together , maybe briefly with Venables in the old second division , but thats it . The danger of giving FDB " a chance " or a " few games " is that we could very very easily LOSE every game and by December be 15 - 20 points adrift YES , thats the reality . Experiments and change is fine , but NOT in a division as lucrative as the Premier League I think we should get rid of FDB as soon as possible and get in a manger that plays simple football that our players are capable of playing !! I cannot believe what i am reading on here. What planet are some of you on? Its one game!!! One game!!! You are all calling for the managers head and discussing who should replace him. Yes we should have beaten Huddersfield on paper but we did not so get over it and back the team. Everyone is frustrated about the lack of activity with regards to transfers etc but you need to give them until the end of the window. Do none of you remember what Steve Parish says? He worries enough for all of us.Most importantly Steve Parish in all his tenure has never ever let this club down and you have to remember that each time you think we are in trouble. So like I said get over it and back the team and the manager. We will not be 15-20 adrift by Christmas.
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Toronto 15 Aug 17 2.41pm

Originally posted by Croydonlad

So much tosh on here about
" Oh its only one game "
" Give him a chance "
" Sam had 5 games before we were better "

Blah Blah Blah
Utter Nonsense
And heres why

Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe .

I cannot believe what i am reading on here. What planet are some of you on? Its one game!!! One game!!! You are all calling for the managers head and discussing who should replace him. Yes we should have beaten Huddersfield on paper but we did not so get over it and back the team. Everyone is frustrated about the lack of activity with regards to transfers etc but you need to give them until the end of the window. Do none of you remember what Steve Parish says? He worries enough for all of us.Most importantly Steve Parish in all his tenure has never ever let this club down and you have to remember that each time you think we are in trouble. So like I said get over it and back the team and the manager. We will not be 15-20 adrift by Christmas.

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budapest cpfc Wien 15 Aug 17 2.48pm
I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND STICK YOUR HEAD DOWN THE TOILET YOU TOTAL WAIST OF SPACE Originally posted by Croydonlad So much tosh on here about " Oh its only one game " " Give him a chance " " Sam had 5 games before we were better " Blah Blah Blah Utter Nonsense And heres why Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe . FDB has got it ALL wrong We do not have players that can keep the ball , We have players that defend well ( better with Sakho ) and attack quickly We have never EVER been able to string more than 6 passes together , maybe briefly with Venables in the old second division , but thats it . The danger of giving FDB " a chance " or a " few games " is that we could very very easily LOSE every game and by December be 15 - 20 points adrift YES , thats the reality . Experiments and change is fine , but NOT in a division as lucrative as the Premier League I think we should get rid of FDB as soon as possible and get in a manger that plays simple football that our players are capable of playing !!
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Wien 15 Aug 17 2.48pm

I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND STICK YOUR HEAD DOWN THE TOILET YOU TOTAL WAIST OF SPACE

Originally posted by Croydonlad

So much tosh on here about
" Oh its only one game "
" Give him a chance "
" Sam had 5 games before we were better "

Blah Blah Blah
Utter Nonsense
And heres why

Yes Sam took a while , BUT , we already had points on the board so therefore we only had to make adjustments on fitness and concentration to eventually get safe .

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Midlands Eagle 15 Aug 17 2.54pm
Originally posted by palacepolak I cannot believe what i am reading on here. What planet are some of you on? Its one game!!! One game!!! You are all calling for the managers head and discussing who should replace him. And last week people were saying "why are you all complaining we haven't played a game yet and next week it will be well we didn't expect to beat Liverpool anyway Originally posted by palacepolak like I said get over it and back the team and the manager. We will not be 15-20 adrift by Christmas. How do you know or is it just blind faith
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Originally posted by palacepolak

I cannot believe what i am reading on here. What planet are some of you on? Its one game!!! One game!!! You are all calling for the managers head and discussing who should replace him.

And last week people were saying "why are you all complaining we haven't played a game yet and next week it will be well we didn't expect to beat Liverpool anyway

Originally posted by palacepolak

like I said get over it and back the team and the manager. We will not be 15-20 adrift by Christmas.

How do you know or is it just blind faith

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Midlands Eagle 15 Aug 17 2.57pm
Originally posted by budapest cpfc I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND STICK YOUR HEAD DOWN THE TOILET YOU TOTAL WAIST OF SPACE Many people aren't intelligent enough to post an reasoned response but at the very least you could get the spelling right if you are just grunting an insult. It's waste not waist
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15 Aug 17 2.57pm

Originally posted by budapest cpfc

I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AND STICK YOUR HEAD DOWN THE TOILET YOU TOTAL WAIST OF SPACE

Many people aren't intelligent enough to post an reasoned response but at the very least you could get the spelling right if you are just grunting an insult.

It's waste not waist

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budapest cpfc Wien 15 Aug 17 3.01pm
you are right that's what you get for using Germen laptop Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Many people aren't intelligent enough to post an reasoned response but at the very least you could get the spelling right if you are just grunting an insult. It's waste not waist
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budapest cpfc

Wien 15 Aug 17 3.01pm

you are right that's what you get for using Germen laptop

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Many people aren't intelligent enough to post an reasoned response but at the very least you could get the spelling right if you are just grunting an insult.

It's waste not waist

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Aug 17 3.04pm
Originally posted by budapest cpfc you are right that's what you get for using Germen laptop No it's not it's a completely different word and meaning. It's not a typo. And 'Germen?' However, is English not your first language? Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Aug 2017 3.04pm) COYP
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