I don't recall Pardew having a Plan B..

I feel I have only just got over the result at the weekend. I have don't know if I have felt that angry about a first half performance since we have been back in the premier league. Perhaps the Sunderland performance edges it. Although we had Allardyce in charge and I had every faith he would turn it around.

I can understand Huddersfield coming out hard and fast from the start, as they having nothing to lose and they will surprise others, not just us.

I just can't understand why we weren't putting in a similar shift? We have players still fighting for places and potentially their place at the club. RLC and TFM were our best two players which sends out huge warnings about where we may be going. They are only loans and whether you agree or not, they honestly won't care come May 2018.

I am really trying to not be one of those guys who is suggesting we are done and FDB was a poor choice, no plan B and poor tactics. In reality though, we did have no plan B and the tactics were wrong and he just didn't change it. I couldn't get Tomkins coming on? Then the third went in.

No new GK, ST, RWB or Winger made us look very, very poor. Clearly the club are trying to sign new players but it seems we are at a stand still.

The system doesn't suit the best player in the premier league in the air, Benteke.

I fear for us next week. He has to go back to 433 or 4231 or it could be massacre up at Anfield.

Trying to keep positive but all the signs of poor planning, ability to change a system early enough to stop defeat and a lack of pre season were obvious on Saturday.

He needs time and he needs financial backing from Parish. I can understand a lot of posters concerns but I think hold total judgement until after the Swansea game or maybe even the Southampton game.

Remember, we are Crystal Palace and we have no devine right to finish top 10 like people suggest. Huddersfield deserved it and fair play to them. Learn and move on. We will be better.

So are you saying he is/cant be a good manager?

It really is far too early to judge. If the board took a month to appoint FDB then it's pretty clear they'll buy into his vision 100%, and I do expect him to be backed in the next two weeks. We've always done our business late since SP took over, and there's still a lot of deals that will be done.

I think Huddersfield looked a lot more prepared than us, they made their signings early this Summer and their manager had them very well drilled into a system he knows works for them. When Huddersfield were making those signings we didn't even have a manager, it's understandable that they looked more prepared than us.

It's a long old season though, there's 37 games left and plenty of time to get things right. We took 3 points from our opening 10 games in 13/14 and finished 11th. The meltdown on here and in the stands over one (admittedly very bad) result is mind boggling.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

The next game will show us how good FDB is, and how much he understands premier league footy.

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I really want FdB to be a success but I have to agree. Surely you have to assess your squad before deciding on the tactics. Most managers would want their team to play like Barcelona but most realise quite quickly that their players are just not good enough.

British defenders are not overly comfortable with the ball (e.g Dann) so why play a system where he is being asked to play with it a lot more? Palace have 2 international wingers so why not play both? Why play a wing back (a pivotal role in this system)who has barely featured in any of the pre season games and is clearly not equipped for the role?

FdB was told that money would be tight so he must have known the additions would be limited so surely assessing the squad was his main priority. I think he has used the loan system really well, but that is a sign that Parish is trying to limit the spending so there will be no Sakho signings etc. Chelsea went out and bought Alonso and Luiz so the manager could play his preferred formation and also converted Moses. Frank will need to get the best out of Townsend and make a quick decision on Punch (who is not up to standard), and work out where best to play Loftus Road if this formation is to have a chance of success.

I would love to see Palace play more football but too often I've seen us try and play possession football, struggle with any penetration and then finally hoof it forward anyway. Unfortunately I can see the same happening here