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elgrande bedford 09 Aug 17 8.19pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 I know that is the narrative but with Rochdale, after watching Three Girls and listening to the real-life heroine who badgered the authorities about it for years, it is evidently clear that the main reason nothing was done by the police and social services is that the girls were too 'underclass' and too wayward for those in power to be that bothered. It took a change in power and for a very strong-willed prosecutor to bring the abusers to justice. He was a British man of pakistani descent. Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it. Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family. And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities. And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit. I wouldn't care where he came from. But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b******s heritage is bollocks. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 09 Aug 17 8.19pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I know that is the narrative but with Rochdale, after watching Three Girls and listening to the real-life heroine who badgered the authorities about it for years, it is evidently clear that the main reason nothing was done by the police and social services is that the girls were too 'underclass' and too wayward for those in power to be that bothered.

It took a change in power and for a very strong-willed prosecutor to bring the abusers to justice. He was a British man of pakistani descent.

Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it.
Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family.
And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities.
And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit.
I wouldn't care where he came from.
But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b******s heritage is bollocks.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Aug 17 8.39pm
Originally posted by elgrande Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it. Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family. And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities. And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit. I wouldn't care where he came from. But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b******s heritage is bollocks. I often wonder if Kermit actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, or is he just spouting the current party line - a bit like a North Korean news broadcaster. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 09 Aug 17 8.39pm

Originally posted by elgrande

I often wonder if Kermit actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, or is he just spouting the current party line - a bit like a North Korean news broadcaster.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.40pm
Originally posted by elgrande Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it. Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family. And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities. And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit. I wouldn't care where he came from. But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b******s heritage is bollocks. Well then I suggest you watched it with your eyes open but your ears firmly clogged. It was laid bare with facts the real reason why nothing was done. You have ignored it. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.40pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Well then I suggest you watched it with your eyes open but your ears firmly clogged. It was laid bare with facts the real reason why nothing was done. You have ignored it.

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 I often wonder if Kermit actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, or is he just spouting the current party line - a bit like a North Korean news broadcaster. You lost the plot years ago Derek. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I often wonder if Kermit actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, or is he just spouting the current party line - a bit like a North Korean news broadcaster.

You lost the plot years ago Derek.

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.53pm
Originally posted by elgrande Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it. Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family. And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities. And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit. I wouldn't care where he came from. But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b**s heritage is bollocks. Not once has Sara Rowbotton - the health worker - suggested inaction was because of ethnicity but she has said many times over and over that it was because the authorities viewed the teenage girls as probable prostitutes or too lower class and poor to be bothered with. I think her opinion on the subject indubitably overrides any of ours. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Aug 17 8.53pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Kermit, I watched that as well,and have read an awful lot about it.
Yes the girls were underclass,but not all one of them came from a very loving family.
And the social workers who did nothing because they did not want to "upset" certain communities.
And I don't understand why you have to say he was of pakistani descent.the fact he had the balls to carry it through he deserves great credit.
I wouldn't care where he came from.
But to deny the authorities at the time didn't take into account there b******s heritage is bollocks.

Not once has Sara Rowbotton - the health worker - suggested inaction was because of ethnicity but she has said many times over and over that it was because the authorities viewed the teenage girls as probable prostitutes or too lower class and poor to be bothered with. I think her opinion on the subject indubitably overrides any of ours.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Aug 17 9.18pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Not once has Sara Rowbotton - the health worker - suggested inaction was because of ethnicity but she has said many times over and over that it was because the authorities viewed the teenage girls as probable prostitutes or too lower class and poor to be bothered with. I think her opinion on the subject indubitably overrides any of ours. Sara Rowbotham is a Labour councillor, she can hardly say that ethnicity played a large part, as the Labour Party in its usual tolerant fashion would have her sacked - just like she was from the authority she worked for. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 09 Aug 17 9.18pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Sara Rowbotham is a Labour councillor, she can hardly say that ethnicity played a large part, as the Labour Party in its usual tolerant fashion would have her sacked - just like she was from the authority she worked for.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Aug 17 9.32pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Sara Rowbotham is a Labour councillor, she can hardly say that ethnicity played a large part, as the Labour Party in its usual tolerant fashion would have her sacked - just like she was from the authority she worked for. She is not one not to speak her mind if you had known anything about her apart from what you have just read on the internet a few minutes ago, plus she become a councillor AFTER the event. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Aug 17 9.32pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Sara Rowbotham is a Labour councillor, she can hardly say that ethnicity played a large part, as the Labour Party in its usual tolerant fashion would have her sacked - just like she was from the authority she worked for.

She is not one not to speak her mind if you had known anything about her apart from what you have just read on the internet a few minutes ago, plus she become a councillor AFTER the event.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Aug 17 9.38pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 She is not one not to speak her mind if you had known anything about her apart from what you have just read on the internet a few minutes ago, plus she become a councillor AFTER the event. I know she did, it was in the documentary about the scandal. Her not openly raising the obvious ethnicity issue is indicative of the totalitarian-like suppression of anything considered racist - people lose their jobs, their reputations and careers are ruined for questioning the liberal/left 'values' of the current establishment. We have this absurd charade of pretending that we can't see what is in front of our noses. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 09 Aug 17 9.38pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

She is not one not to speak her mind if you had known anything about her apart from what you have just read on the internet a few minutes ago, plus she become a councillor AFTER the event.

I know she did, it was in the documentary about the scandal. Her not openly raising the obvious ethnicity issue is indicative of the totalitarian-like suppression of anything considered racist - people lose their jobs, their reputations and careers are ruined for questioning the liberal/left 'values' of the current establishment. We have this absurd charade of pretending that we can't see what is in front of our noses.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Aug 17 10.13pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 I know she did, it was in the documentary about the scandal. Her not openly raising the obvious ethnicity issue is indicative of the totalitarian-like suppression of anything considered racist - people lose their jobs, their reputations and careers are ruined for questioning the liberal/left 'values' of the current establishment. We have this absurd charade of pretending that we can't see what is in front of our noses. You can't mean that judging by the evidence, a significant number of men in the Muslim community in a number of towns, think it's OK to round up, drug and rape young white girls because they are decadent western non believers who are just there for their gratification. Surely you can't be suggesting that.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50

You can't mean that judging by the evidence, a significant number of men in the Muslim community in a number of towns, think it's OK to round up, drug and rape young white girls because they are decadent western non believers who are just there for their gratification.
Surely you can't be suggesting that.

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7mins In the bush 09 Aug 17 11.14pm
I see a community leader from Newcastle has said the girls were targeted because they're white. Not sure how I feel about this... on one hand it raises racial tensions on the other hand... if it's not reported... it's censorship. This plays in to the hands of the far right. The far left will deny there's a problem... where is in the centre (although I have left leanings) can discuss it like adults
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In the bush 09 Aug 17 11.14pm

I see a community leader from Newcastle has said the girls were targeted because they're white. Not sure how I feel about this... on one hand it raises racial tensions on the other hand... if it's not reported... it's censorship.
This plays in to the hands of the far right. The far left will deny there's a problem... where is in the centre (although I have left leanings) can discuss it like adults

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Aug 17 1.31am
Originally posted by baldeagle73 These particular Asians still have a third world mentality and a total lack of respect for females they should face their own justice hanging from a tree if they want to behave like subhuman beasts treat them as such Funnily enough a lot are 'British Born' yet are members of the Bangladeshi, pakistani, Iraqi communities??????? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Aug 17 1.31am

Originally posted by baldeagle73

These particular Asians still have a third world mentality and a total lack of respect for females they should face their own justice hanging from a tree if they want to behave like subhuman beasts treat them as such

Funnily enough a lot are 'British Born' yet are members of the Bangladeshi, pakistani, Iraqi communities???????

Pro USA & Israel

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Dave58 Ipswich 10 Aug 17 5.38am
Not caused by immigration. Allowed to happen because of the reluctance to investigate due to fear of being branded racist. Police have been criticised before for their stop and search policies and so on. if this gang where white they would have been behind bars long ago. The Asian community is a fantastic asset to this country. Most are hard working and decent people. They will hate these guys because they tarnish their good name. We just need to let the police do their job and ignore the PC brigade.
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Ipswich 10 Aug 17 5.38am

Not caused by immigration. Allowed to happen because of the reluctance to investigate due to fear of being branded racist. Police have been criticised before for their stop and search policies and so on. if this gang where white they would have been behind bars long ago. The Asian community is a fantastic asset to this country. Most are hard working and decent people. They will hate these guys because they tarnish their good name.
We just need to let the police do their job and ignore the PC brigade.

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