Me too, but the point you seemed to be making was the tired old "why are our deaths more important than theirs?"

The answer to that, of course, is that they aren't more important but, crucially, they are more important TO US.

Several people died in a crash on the M6 yesterday - did that honestly affect or sadden you to the same degree that 7 deaths on the tram did? I doubt it. Why? Because for whatever reason the seven on the tram were "some of our own". No doubt to the families affected by these and countless other tragedies they also attach more importance to local events or people they either know or at least know of.

22 people killed in Manchester holds far more sway with me than children lost in the Med (sad as it is) and I'm not afraid to admit it. I would also imagine that if you asked people in the countries those poor refugees came from, they would say that they are potentially more saddened by those deaths than the ones in Manchester (notwithstanding the different circumstances - one an accidental tragedy albeit brought about by a combination of horrible circumstances, criminal negligence, and people willing to risk the lives of others for a fast buck, the other a callous act of murder directed against children)

Really? Do you not think it's a tragedy that warrants discussion.

People dying in the Mediterranean trying to escape war zones is something we should all be concerned about, not just Labour voters. People dying winds me up too.

Actually it's just normal. We concern ourselves and feel empathy for those we feel a bond with more that those more remote.

Nick thinks he's the lord of the moral high ground because he posts this stuff but real charity does not require advertising.

Me too, but the point you seemed to be making was the tired old "why are our deaths more important than theirs?"

The answer to that, of course, is that they aren't more important but, crucially, they are more important TO US.

Several people died in a crash on the M6 yesterday - did that honestly affect or sadden you to the same degree that 7 deaths on the tram did? I doubt it. Why? Because for whatever reason the seven on the tram were "some of our own". No doubt to the families affected by these and countless other tragedies they also attach more importance to local events or people they either know or at least know of.

22 people killed in Manchester holds far more sway with me than children lost in the Med (sad as it is) and I'm not afraid to admit it. I would also imagine that if you asked people in the countries those poor refugees came from, they would say that they are potentially more saddened by those deaths than the ones in Manchester (notwithstanding the different circumstances - one an accidental tragedy albeit brought about by a combination of horrible circumstances, criminal negligence, and people willing to risk the lives of others for a fast buck, the other a callous act of murder directed against children)

Always seems to be you though doesnt it. You know what your doing and you just lose any respect people may have for you.
You didnt answer my question as to why those fleeing war zones and harm dont go to the nearest safe haven to them instead of risking life even further by getting in a boat not safe or fit for purpose and going across the sea.