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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 1.34pm
Originally posted by matt_himself What you will see is that words of those whom wish to pursue dangerous, expensive and unnecessary social engineering projects, are illuminated with emotive language which has been designed to make the suggestible vulnerable to their message, whom in turn use it as a tool to make themselves feel superior. Should you wish to believe this stuff as fact without questioning it, that is your right, sunshine. I don't think its dangerous, expensive or unnecessary of government to focus its spending on the citizens of a nation, in fact I think its their duty. Certainly there are other obligations that a society has, but fundamentally, I would argue that a government that cannot adequately feed, cloth, house and educate its people (to a reasonable level of opportunity), whilst spending large amounts of revenue elsewhere, has failed. We should be emotive, and emotionally moved, to identify and rectify the failures in a society that produce significant and recurring patterns of dysfunction. These are social needs, not wants, for a functional citizen that can contribute to society. That doesn't just mean 'financially compensating people' with welfare payments, it means creating real opportunities and programs to assist people to escape from poverty. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 05 Apr 17 1.34pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

What you will see is that words of those whom wish to pursue dangerous, expensive and unnecessary social engineering projects, are illuminated with emotive language which has been designed to make the suggestible vulnerable to their message, whom in turn use it as a tool to make themselves feel superior.

Should you wish to believe this stuff as fact without questioning it, that is your right, sunshine.

I don't think its dangerous, expensive or unnecessary of government to focus its spending on the citizens of a nation, in fact I think its their duty.

Certainly there are other obligations that a society has, but fundamentally, I would argue that a government that cannot adequately feed, cloth, house and educate its people (to a reasonable level of opportunity), whilst spending large amounts of revenue elsewhere, has failed.

We should be emotive, and emotionally moved, to identify and rectify the failures in a society that produce significant and recurring patterns of dysfunction.

These are social needs, not wants, for a functional citizen that can contribute to society.

That doesn't just mean 'financially compensating people' with welfare payments, it means creating real opportunities and programs to assist people to escape from poverty.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.35pm
Originally posted by matt_himself The left are all the same. Challenge them and they can only respond facetiously because they need their responses spoon fed to them well in advance of them being questioned. Why don't you think for yourself rather than suck up loaded propaganda that you clearly don't have the intelligence to defend independently? What was your point about Theresa May?
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Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.35pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

The left are all the same. Challenge them and they can only respond facetiously because they need their responses spoon fed to them well in advance of them being questioned.

Why don't you think for yourself rather than suck up loaded propaganda that you clearly don't have the intelligence to defend independently?

What was your point about Theresa May?

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Midlands Eagle 05 Apr 17 1.35pm
Originally posted by serial thriller The Tories are tearing this country apart. The fact that senior ministers are even discussing war with Spain is evidemce of this. Surely you're not being serious?
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Originally posted by serial thriller

The Tories are tearing this country apart. The fact that senior ministers are even discussing war with Spain is evidemce of this.

Surely you're not being serious?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 1.40pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt The public sector are going to find it almost impossible to take contractors on now. I've been offered a new contract and neither I nor my accountant can say for sure whether it's inside or outside IR35. Worryingly, HMRC don't know either. Edited by Cucking Funt (05 Apr 2017 1.26pm) I don't think HMRC will be pursuing IR35 cases on more historical basis, they'll be focusing on whether its Public or Private - And they're going to get around that problem, by getting the company employing the contractor to make a decision and extract a form of PAYE before payment to the umbrella or limited company. That way, it'll be up to the contractor to prove they are outside of IR35, and it can simply state that 'they and the company' agreed that the ultimate source of employment was a public entity. Realistically, IR35 is the least of the issues. The new tax legislation due to come in on the 6th will be the basis going forwards. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 05 Apr 17 1.40pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

The public sector are going to find it almost impossible to take contractors on now.

I've been offered a new contract and neither I nor my accountant can say for sure whether it's inside or outside IR35. Worryingly, HMRC don't know either.

Edited by Cucking Funt (05 Apr 2017 1.26pm)

I don't think HMRC will be pursuing IR35 cases on more historical basis, they'll be focusing on whether its Public or Private - And they're going to get around that problem, by getting the company employing the contractor to make a decision and extract a form of PAYE before payment to the umbrella or limited company.

That way, it'll be up to the contractor to prove they are outside of IR35, and it can simply state that 'they and the company' agreed that the ultimate source of employment was a public entity.

Realistically, IR35 is the least of the issues. The new tax legislation due to come in on the 6th will be the basis going forwards.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.43pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Surely you're not being serious? The front of the mail was quite jingoistic about it. 'you'll have to send an Armada ' I think we're the words.
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Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.43pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Surely you're not being serious?

The front of the mail was quite jingoistic about it. 'you'll have to send an Armada ' I think we're the words.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.49pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 The tenet of his points? No, I don't share his beliefs. As for the school begging letters. How many were there? I can only find reference to one that Corbyn says someone called Elizabeth told him about. Could it be a entrepreneurial head teacher trying to raise a few extra quid for the school? As for starving children, it is nonsense. No children are starved in this country unless it is by deliberate child abuse by the parents. Then you don't know this area very well. Have a look at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation website about child poverty in this country. Read the TES. From my own experience, the number of kids coming to school without breakfast was growing. Secondary teachers have said that girls have been missing school because their family can't afford sanitary towels. My 3 kids go to different school, I've had an email from each one asking for monthly donations to help the school financially. Take your head out of the sand man. Just because Corbyn said it, doesn't mean it isn't true. Edited by nickgusset (05 Apr 2017 1.50pm)
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Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 1.49pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

The tenet of his points? No, I don't share his beliefs. As for the school begging letters. How many were there? I can only find reference to one that Corbyn says someone called Elizabeth told him about. Could it be a entrepreneurial head teacher trying to raise a few extra quid for the school?
As for starving children, it is nonsense. No children are starved in this country unless it is by deliberate child abuse by the parents.

Then you don't know this area very well. Have a look at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation website about child poverty in this country. Read the TES.
From my own experience, the number of kids coming to school without breakfast was growing.
Secondary teachers have said that girls have been missing school because their family can't afford sanitary towels.
My 3 kids go to different school, I've had an email from each one asking for monthly donations to help the school financially.

Take your head out of the sand man. Just because Corbyn said it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

Edited by nickgusset (05 Apr 2017 1.50pm)

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serial thriller The Promised Land 05 Apr 17 1.52pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Surely you're not being serious? [Link] I am being serious, and don't call me Shirley If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Surely you're not being serious?

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I am being serious, and don't call me Shirley

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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serial thriller The Promised Land 05 Apr 17 1.58pm
Originally posted by matt_himself The left are all the same. Challenge them and they can only respond facetiously because they need their responses spoon fed to them well in advance of them being questioned. Why don't you think for yourself rather than suck up loaded propaganda that you clearly don't have the intelligence to defend independently? I tried thinking for myself a while ago, but then you told me i was delusional and were out of touch with normal people, so i decided to start reading Breitbart to see what the average person in the street was thinking. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 05 Apr 17 1.58pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

The left are all the same. Challenge them and they can only respond facetiously because they need their responses spoon fed to them well in advance of them being questioned.

Why don't you think for yourself rather than suck up loaded propaganda that you clearly don't have the intelligence to defend independently?

I tried thinking for myself a while ago, but then you told me i was delusional and were out of touch with normal people, so i decided to start reading Breitbart to see what the average person in the street was thinking.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 05 Apr 17 2.05pm
All the schools around me try various schemes to raise ££. Some of it is pretty heartbreaking where they will charge a quid here or a quid there for simple stuff. Some parents struggle to always do it, so their nippers miss out. It's a little bit s*** for those kids. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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All the schools around me try various schemes to raise ££. Some of it is pretty heartbreaking where they will charge a quid here or a quid there for simple stuff. Some parents struggle to always do it, so their nippers miss out. It's a little bit s*** for those kids.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 2.07pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig All the schools around me try various schemes to raise ££. Some of it is pretty heartbreaking where they will charge a quid here or a quid there for simple stuff. Some parents struggle to always do it, so their nippers miss out. It's a little bit s*** for those kids. I tell you it goes on everywhere else too.
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Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 17 2.07pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I tell you it goes on everywhere else too.

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matt_himself Matataland 05 Apr 17 2.08pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I tried thinking for myself a while ago, but then you told me i was delusional and were out of touch with normal people, so i decided to start reading Breitbart to see what the average person in the street was thinking. You are just proving my previous point succinctly. You are incapable of independently defending 'your' ideology. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 05 Apr 17 2.08pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

You are just proving my previous point succinctly.

You are incapable of independently defending 'your' ideology.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 05 Apr 17 2.08pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I don't think HMRC will be pursuing IR35 cases on more historical basis, they'll be focusing on whether its Public or Private - And they're going to get around that problem, by getting the company employing the contractor to make a decision and extract a form of PAYE before payment to the umbrella or limited company. That way, it'll be up to the contractor to prove they are outside of IR35, and it can simply state that 'they and the company' agreed that the ultimate source of employment was a public entity. Realistically, IR35 is the least of the issues. The new tax legislation due to come in on the 6th will be the basis going forwards. They're not above introducing retrospective legislation, as I'm sure you're aware. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 05 Apr 17 2.08pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

That way, it'll be up to the contractor to prove they are outside of IR35, and it can simply state that 'they and the company' agreed that the ultimate source of employment was a public entity.

Realistically, IR35 is the least of the issues. The new tax legislation due to come in on the 6th will be the basis going forwards.

They're not above introducing retrospective legislation, as I'm sure you're aware.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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