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hedgehog50  Croydon 01 Feb 17 8.36am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd be interested to hear some of your observations on the human condition. Not sure, but I think it was Philip Larkin who described life as a massive brawl going on with him standing on the fringes of it, throwing back a bottle now and again when one emerged from the melee. Bit like the HOL really. Edited by hedgehog50 (01 Feb 2017 8.38am)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 10.24am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd be interested to hear some of your observations on the human condition. The human condition is the hubris of belief in a singular truth, and the arrogance of believing ourselves to be special.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Not sure, but I think it was Philip Larkin who described life as a massive brawl going on with him standing on the fringes of it, throwing back a bottle now and again when one emerged from the melee. Bit like the HOL really. Edited by hedgehog50 (01 Feb 2017 8.38am) That was more metaphorical than metaphysical.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That was more metaphorical than metaphysical. Well that's because I think metaphysics is mostly nonsense, I'm more of a logical positivist.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The human condition is the hubris of belief in a singular truth, and the arrogance of believing ourselves to be special. I'd certainly doubt we are unique but we are fortunate enough to be able to marvel at our own complexity and the fact that such complexity can come from apparent simplicity. If we were to discover why all these thing came to be, I suspect the answer would be far more prosaic than some might hope but none the less remarkable. Who needs religion.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Well that's because I think metaphysics is mostly nonsense, I'm more of a logical positivist. The unseen is not necessarily absent. Time for example. Does it actually exist or not? It's not all about ghosts and spoon bending.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That was more metaphorical than metaphysical. I think its more simile than metaphorical, than metaphysical, but not allegorical.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think its more simile than metaphorical, than metaphysical, but not allegorical. Smart arse.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Well that's because I think metaphysics is mostly nonsense, I'm more of a logical positivist. Metaphysical can also apply to qualities in positivism, that are assumed, but not detectable or really quantifiable, especially when they are experienced subjectively. Happiness, is a metaphysical concept, that it would be illogical to dismiss, but cannot really be discussed or assessed except through metaphysics. Although logical positivists seem to utilise the term hypothetical concept, over metaphysical.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Feb 17 2.21pm |
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Seems to be a distinctive lack of Canadian flags on people's profiles on facebook #muslimlivesdontmatter
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Metaphysical can also apply to qualities in positivism, that are assumed, but not detectable or really quantifiable, especially when they are experienced subjectively. Happiness, is a metaphysical concept, that it would be illogical to dismiss, but cannot really be discussed or assessed except through metaphysics. Although logical positivists seem to utilise the term hypothetical concept, over metaphysical. I'm quite happy to dismiss happiness.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Seems to be a distinctive lack of Canadian flags on people's profiles on facebook #muslimlivesdontmatter That's because they don't want a big maple leaf over their mush.
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