We’ve been promoted to the top flight seven times. The longest we’ve stayed up has been four seasons: 1969-73 and 1989-93. This is our longest stay in the Premier League, but it’s also our fourth season again. History repeating itself?

In 1969-73 we did very well to stay up, thanks to Bert Head, but we were never able to consolidate at that level. In 1989-93 we had a much better chance to establish ourselves, but shot ourselves in the foot and I feel it’s the same this season.

I’m not saying we are down yet, especially purely as a result of yesterday, but I think it’s going to be a real battle now to survive. We have a slim chance, but if we don’t gain at least 8 points from the next 5 fixtures, then I think we are down. We have already picked up 7 fewer points this season than we had from the corresponding fixtures last season – and then we finished just 5 points above the relegated sides.

Still trying to be optimistic.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain.

Blimey you give in easily and raise the white flag! Lets hope the Club, management and players continue to show a more backbone, guts and doggedness and continue to fight on with the next 16 matches.
Yesterday was certainly a vast improvement on the Swansea effort.

This ain't over until Palace have played all 38 fixtures!

If we lose our next 2 games against Bournemouth and sunderland we will go down its pathetic we find ourselves in this position we have a top 10 squad not a bottom 3 squad if we go down we won't come back up again that's for sure

I think that we will go down this season, teams that get relegated find ways to lose a game and that's what we are doing. Seen it all before in he 70s 80s and 90s. The big question will be how we regroup.

The current squad is talented but not motivated. If they want to stay up they need to get their motivation up considerably, how about telling them all "if we go down you've got to stay and play in the championship ". Might give them the kick up the bum they need.

Remember when Bruce tipped up at our place, didn't start well in terms of gaining points but you could see that results were to follow and they did. Yesterday's game gave me much the same belief. Few new additions, and wilf to add to the equation we'll pick up wins very soon.

There's still plenty to play for.

But I do fear the worst.

We have more genuine talent and quality than the teams around us, but it's not properly balanced.

That's started to be addressed by signing Shlupp, but I still think we need a physical presence in midfield to shield the back four and an upgrade on Damo.

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