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dp Tunbridge Wells 18 Jan 17 4.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I am of the thinking we are fooked anyway so best to prepare early for next season. We are definitely one of the three worst teams in The Prem. The table is lying. Mate, I don't get these posts. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't get what pleasure you get from supporting Palace with that attitude. We have been the worst team in the Premiership before and we stayed up. We probably weren't the third best team in the Championship the season we got promoted, but we did. Arguably we were worse than Newcastle last year and we finished above them. On these occasions, it was the supporters at Selhurst that apparently made the difference. I don't accept that we are even favourites to be relegated yet, we are definite candidates for relegation but we are not so certain to go down that we should start selling our best players. I am all for realism, but this blind pessimism is not helpful. We didn't hire Sam to give up a few weeks later, if we had we may as well have stuck with Pardew and enjoyed being on the wrong end of five, seven of nine goal thrillers. At least we would have seen goals. if we do go down then there is no certainty we will come back up any time soon, so you would be better off screaming the boys on and savouring the rest of the season rather than crying into your keyboard. So can you please get a grip.
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Midlands Eagle 18 Jan 17 4.50pm | |
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Originally posted by dp
Arguably we were worse than Newcastle last year and we finished above them. On these occasions, it was the supporters at Selhurst that apparently made the difference. Whilst I agree with the general gist of your post I would take issue with the support at Selhurst having anything to do with how the team played as we lost most of the home games in 2016
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bexleydave Barnehurst 18 Jan 17 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Whilst I agree with the general gist of your post I would take issue with the support at Selhurst having anything to do with how the team played as we lost most of the home games in 2016
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chateauferret 18 Jan 17 5.06pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
The kind of conundrum that makes a flushing noise when you pull the chain.
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dp Tunbridge Wells 18 Jan 17 7.11pm | |
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Yes, the operative word is "apparently", however, the point still stands that we can choose to criticise everything that the club and all who sail in her do, and make our (potentially) last few months in the premiership for a generation an absolute torture, or we can not. We are a long way from a fire sale of our best players.
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Kermit8 Hevon 18 Jan 17 7.39pm | |
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Originally posted by dp
Mate, I don't get these posts. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't get what pleasure you get from supporting Palace with that attitude. We have been the worst team in the Premiership before and we stayed up. We probably weren't the third best team in the Championship the season we got promoted, but we did. Arguably we were worse than Newcastle last year and we finished above them. On these occasions, it was the supporters at Selhurst that apparently made the difference. I don't accept that we are even favourites to be relegated yet, we are definite candidates for relegation but we are not so certain to go down that we should start selling our best players. I am all for realism, but this blind pessimism is not helpful. We didn't hire Sam to give up a few weeks later, if we had we may as well have stuck with Pardew and enjoyed being on the wrong end of five, seven of nine goal thrillers. At least we would have seen goals. if we do go down then there is no certainty we will come back up any time soon, so you would be better off screaming the boys on and savouring the rest of the season rather than crying into your keyboard. So can you please get a grip. Just calling it how I see it, calmly, no histrionics, no 'crying'. You seem more upset than me tbh. A team with inconsistent bits of quality and Champ standard players here and there and no real snarling desire to get results and no proper shape is, whether you like it or not, a relegation team. Now that may change but as it is there is no sign of something dramatic to swing the season in our favour at the moment. We may get the exact three or four right players in during the transfer window even if that is highly improbable. It may happen. My hopes for Palace are based on reality not blind faith and 'la-la-la this is not really happening' support. If I see a moment where there is a sea-change I will shout it from the Hol rooftops.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Jan 17 8.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Just calling it how I see it, calmly, no histrionics, no 'crying'. You seem more upset than me tbh. A team with inconsistent bits of quality and Champ standard players here and there and no real snarling desire to get results and no proper shape is, whether you like it or not, a relegation team. Now that may change but as it is there is no sign of something dramatic to swing the season in our favour at the moment. We may get the exact three or four right players in during the transfer window even if that is highly improbable. It may happen. My hopes for Palace are based on reality not blind faith and 'la-la-la this is not really happening' support. If I see a moment where there is a sea-change I will shout it from the Hol rooftops. Good job season ticket holders won't be thinking like this or we'd be f***ed. It's support the club time, not pretend we know more than Merson et al on Sky Saturday and want it to be so to claim super knowledge which is won by fine margins if we give ourselves a chance.
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dp Tunbridge Wells 18 Jan 17 8.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Yep time to offload our big money signings and get as much dosh back and prepare for the future. I rather like the idea of a well prepared squad with new faces taking The Championship by storm. Goodbye Christian, Jordon, Bakary, Wilfrid(sadly), Steve, Martin; (good comedy act those two), Matthieu, Joel, Frazier and a few others. "No histrionics", a couple of hours ago you were suggesting that we should sell our best players and prepare for the Championship. Seems like histrionics to me. Now you are suggesting that we might sign "the exact three or four right players". Should we sell and prepare for the Championship, or should we buy and try and stay up? We can't do both. Which plan do you now think we should follow? I don't think my post belied "la la la this is not happening support", I said we are in the running for relegation, but there are not just two extremes here, and throwing in the towel in January, as per your original post is not, in my opinion, the way to go.
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dp Tunbridge Wells 18 Jan 17 8.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Good job season ticket holders won't be thinking like this or we'd be f***ed. It's support the club time, not pretend we know more than Merson et al on Sky Saturday and want it to be so to claim super knowledge which is won by fine margins if we give ourselves a chance. Well said. Pretty much what I wanted to say in a couple of paragraphs.
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Petereagle Brockley 19 Jan 17 7.54am | |
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Originally posted by dp
Well said. Pretty much what I wanted to say in a couple of paragraphs. Would be a good value deal for a player who is now 31. I am sure BFS could bring someone in more fit for defensive duties
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bexleydave Barnehurst 19 Jan 17 8.14am | |
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Originally posted by Petereagle
Would be a good value deal for a player who is now 31. I am sure BFS could bring someone in more fit for defensive duties Could we though? We need to be building on what we have and, at worst selling fringe players. We are not in a position where a line of quality footballers will be queueing round the block to join us. Plus there's just 12 days left.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 19 Jan 17 8.23am | |
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as much as i love cabaye and i genunially beleive he is the best midfielder on our books...if we were offered £16m for a 31 year old and we could get somebody of his quality but 5 years younger in 1st i would take that deal.
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