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Rachid Rachid Rachid 01 Jan 17 11.36pm
So a team thin on squad numbers and struggling for results, confidence and fitness is going to go to Arsenal and have a go when (arguably) the biggest game of the season is at home in 48 hours ? No wonder you liked Pardew. Great admirer of Wilf but he and Townsend continually lost the ball cheaply when they needed to help ease the pressure.
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So a team thin on squad numbers and struggling for results, confidence and fitness is going to go to Arsenal and have a go when (arguably) the biggest game of the season is at home in 48 hours ? No wonder you liked Pardew.

Great admirer of Wilf but he and Townsend continually lost the ball cheaply when they needed to help ease the pressure.

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bodge 02 Jan 17 1.05am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 The manner of having 10 defenders and 1 goalkeeper. Difficult to score like that. Don't you think? Should we approach a football game thinking we have lost before kick-off? What happened to "top ten", "Europa League" expectations? They seem to have melted away. This board was full of optimism, now everyone seems happy with anti-football. I don't get it. The trouble was they still had lots of chances, so in hindsight we might as well have gone for it as a free game knowing the other teams had lost. None of us are happy with anti football long term but until SA gets in new players its going to be tough to get any points v the top teams.
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02 Jan 17 1.05am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

The manner of having 10 defenders and 1 goalkeeper. Difficult to score like that. Don't you think? Should we approach a football game thinking we have lost before kick-off? What happened to "top ten", "Europa League" expectations? They seem to have melted away. This board was full of optimism, now everyone seems happy with *anti-football*. I don't get it.

The trouble was they still had lots of chances, so in hindsight we might as well have gone for it as a free game knowing the other teams had lost. None of us are happy with anti football long term but until SA gets in new players its going to be tough to get any points v the top teams.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 02 Jan 17 1.11am
We were poor today, but it's more down to the players in general. The game plan almost worked - you can't defend against those type of goals... however you don't need to give it away in the build up. Swansea will be the turn around. This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 02 Jan 17 1.11am

We were poor today, but it's more down to the players in general. The game plan almost worked - you can't defend against those type of goals... however you don't need to give it away in the build up.
Swansea will be the turn around.

This was once a quality forum....

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The Dolphin 02 Jan 17 8.46am
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid Manner of what ? A depleted squad away to Arsenal, Sanchez & co with a game at home to Swansea in little over 48 hours. Jordan Mutch and Fraizer Campbell were on the pitch at the end of the game ffs. Injuries, fitness and poor morale have followed Pardew around wherever he's been and Allardyce isn't going to fix that in a week. The worst I've seen in a year was the first half away to West Brom and the writing was on the wall then IMO. I agree with you! Alan Pardew literally ripped the heart and spirit out of CPFC over the period of his tenure - it took a while to show but when it did it was spectacular. He got rid of characters to get it done his way and his abject failure means that we have had to employ Fat Sam - not my first choice - I would have taken relegation with Gary Rowett in charge as it happens whilst building for the future. Some posters are slagging off Allardyce after a few days when he has a poor and depleted squad to work with - those same posters thought Pardew was still God after 6 wins in 37 games!!!!! We may well go down this season - I hope we don't - but it will be better in the long term doing it this way than if we had kept Pardew.
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02 Jan 17 8.46am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Manner of what ? A depleted squad away to Arsenal, Sanchez & co with a game at home to Swansea in little over 48 hours.

Jordan Mutch and Fraizer Campbell were on the pitch at the end of the game ffs.

Injuries, fitness and poor morale have followed Pardew around wherever he's been and Allardyce isn't going to fix that in a week.

The worst I've seen in a year was the first half away to West Brom and the writing was on the wall then IMO.

I agree with you!
Alan Pardew literally ripped the heart and spirit out of CPFC over the period of his tenure - it took a while to show but when it did it was spectacular.
He got rid of characters to get it done his way and his abject failure means that we have had to employ Fat Sam - not my first choice - I would have taken relegation with Gary Rowett in charge as it happens whilst building for the future.
Some posters are slagging off Allardyce after a few days when he has a poor and depleted squad to work with - those same posters thought Pardew was still God after 6 wins in 37 games!!!!!
We may well go down this season - I hope we don't - but it will be better in the long term doing it this way than if we had kept Pardew.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 02 Jan 17 9.09am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 I know, but we need points. So we sacked him. Now we will play s*e football, score rarely, and still not get points. Allardyce has only been here for two games for FFS; the first after just a single training session and the other away to Arsenal. Let's give the man a chance to show what he can do with the team and a transfer window before we start pining for the golden days of 2016. Pardew had two transfer windows and a year to sort things out and achieved a form record of 92 out of 92, with no evidence that he could turn it around. It's now Allardyce's turn to see if he can dig us out of the Pardew-created pile of cack and it's going to take more than a week to do that. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ***** thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 02 Jan 17 9.09am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I know, but we need points. So we sacked him. Now we will play s***e football, score rarely, and still not get points.

Allardyce has only been here for two games for FFS; the first after just a single training session and the other away to Arsenal. Let's give the man a chance to show what he can do with the team and a transfer window before we start pining for the golden days of 2016. Pardew had two transfer windows and a year to sort things out and achieved a form record of 92 out of 92, with no evidence that he could turn it around. It's now Allardyce's turn to see if he can dig us out of the Pardew-created pile of cack and it's going to take more than a week to do that.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 02 Jan 17 9.45am
I think there's a few people on here that need to calm down and get some perspective. If you could name one area where the team is exposed at the moment, it's at full back. On both sides. Arsenal are arguably the best in the PL at exploiting that weakness. Until we sign a left back and restore Ward to right back, that problem remains. Overall it was a somewhat tepid performance but I think thoughts were on a more winnable game against Swansea tomorrow. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 02 Jan 17 9.45am

I think there's a few people on here that need to calm down and get some perspective.

If you could name one area where the team is exposed at the moment, it's at full back. On both sides. Arsenal are arguably the best in the PL at exploiting that weakness.

Until we sign a left back and restore Ward to right back, that problem remains.

Overall it was a somewhat tepid performance but I think thoughts were on a more winnable game against Swansea tomorrow.

Old, Ungifted and White

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Hoof Hearted 02 Jan 17 10.07am
Originally posted by NEILLO I think there's a few people on here that need to calm down and get some perspective. If you could name one area where the team is exposed at the moment, it's at full back. On both sides. Arsenal are arguably the best in the PL at exploiting that weakness. Until we sign a left back and restore Ward to right back, that problem remains. Overall it was a somewhat tepid performance but I think thoughts were on a more winnable game against Swansea tomorrow. It's a joke that you have to point this out to some people NEILLO. Give Big Sam a chance FFS!
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Hoof Hearted 02 Jan 17 10.07am

Originally posted by NEILLO

I think there's a few people on here that need to calm down and get some perspective.

If you could name one area where the team is exposed at the moment, it's at full back. On both sides. Arsenal are arguably the best in the PL at exploiting that weakness.

Until we sign a left back and restore Ward to right back, that problem remains.

Overall it was a somewhat tepid performance but I think thoughts were on a more winnable game against Swansea tomorrow.

It's a joke that you have to point this out to some people NEILLO.

Give Big Sam a chance FFS!

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Spiderman Horsham 02 Jan 17 10.21am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 I know, but we need points. So we sacked him. Now we will play se football, score rarely, and still not get points.* Our full backs are not the only problem, but it's a starting point. Thank you Mystic Meg!
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Horsham 02 Jan 17 10.21am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I know, but we need points. So we sacked him. Now we will play s***e football, score rarely, and still not get points.

Our full backs are not the only problem, but it's a starting point.

Thank you Mystic Meg!

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Spiderman Horsham 02 Jan 17 10.26am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted It's a joke that you have to point this out to some people NEILLO. Give Big Sam a chance FFS! Totally agree, this board is getting ridiculous at times, I know everyone has and is entitled to their opinions but FS has had the team for approx 1 week, what is he expected to do in that time? Arsenal away was never going to be anything than a defeat, after the 1st golal damage limitation was the order of the day, I couldn't see anything wrong with that. In fact I thought there were more positives than negatives (defence looked more organised, except full backs, team put a "shift" in) my opinion any way.
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Horsham 02 Jan 17 10.26am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

It's a joke that you have to point this out to some people NEILLO.

Give Big Sam a chance FFS!

Totally agree, this board is getting ridiculous at times, I know everyone has and is entitled to their opinions but FS has had the team for approx 1 week, what is he expected to do in that time? Arsenal away was never going to be anything than a defeat, after the 1st golal damage limitation was the order of the day, I couldn't see anything wrong with that. In fact I thought there were more positives than negatives (defence looked more organised, except full backs, team put a "shift" in) my opinion any way.

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Salford eagle 02 Jan 17 10.32am
Originally posted by The Dolphin He got rid of characters to get it done his way and his abject failure means that we have had to employ Fat Sam - not my first choice - I would have taken relegation with Gary Rowett in charge as it happens whilst building for the future. Why take relegation with Rowett if there is a chance of survival!??? I'm glad Parish is in charge and doesn't have your mentality! I don't think people quite understand what relegation from the premier league means anymore. Look at the money involved for a start! Building for the future has to be one of the biggest clichés. Without premier league money we'll be building nothing! California sunlight - sweet Calcutta rain - Honolulu starbright - the song remains the same
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02 Jan 17 10.32am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

He got rid of characters to get it done his way and his abject failure means that we have had to employ Fat Sam - not my first choice - I would have taken relegation with Gary Rowett in charge as it happens whilst building for the future.

Why take relegation with Rowett if there is a chance of survival!??? I'm glad Parish is in charge and doesn't have your mentality!

I don't think people quite understand what relegation from the premier league means anymore. Look at the money involved for a start!

Building for the future has to be one of the biggest clichés. Without premier league money we'll be building nothing!

California sunlight - sweet Calcutta rain - Honolulu starbright - the song remains the same

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palace chick South Croydon 02 Jan 17 10.33am
Originally posted by lefty27 Unfortunately Arsenal were on it today. If Townsend and Zaha were playing further forward I reckon it would have been a whole lot worse. It was about staying in the game and nicking a goal, which nearly happened with CB in the second half. It was game over at 2-0. If we set up like that against the teams around us then I would be worried. West Ham played good football under Sam as did Bolton, don't buy this, 'it's the way he sets his team up' s***e. Tbh it's good to see players playing within their capabilities. That's how I saw it as well. Arsenal surprised me as to how they shut us down as soon as we got the ball. There players are far superior to ours when you look at 11 v 11 and they all did there jobs and more yesterday. We will get better and hopefully in time to stay up? It's going to be a long job but I'm hopeful we will get it right under Aladaye to stay up?
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South Croydon 02 Jan 17 10.33am

Originally posted by lefty27

Unfortunately Arsenal were on it today. If Townsend and Zaha were playing further forward I reckon it would have been a whole lot worse.
It was about staying in the game and nicking a goal, which nearly happened with CB in the second half. It was game over at 2-0. If we set up like that against the teams around us then I would be worried.
West Ham played good football under Sam as did Bolton, don't buy this, 'it's the way he sets his team up' s***e. Tbh it's good to see players playing within their capabilities.

That's how I saw it as well. Arsenal surprised me as to how they shut us down as soon as we got the ball. There players are far superior to ours when you look at 11 v 11 and they all did there jobs and more yesterday. We will get better and hopefully in time to stay up? It's going to be a long job but I'm hopeful we will get it right under Aladaye to stay up?

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Jan 17 10.33am
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid So a team thin on squad numbers and struggling for results, confidence and fitness is going to go to Arsenal and have a go when (arguably) the biggest game of the season is at home in 48 hours ? No wonder you liked Pardew. Great admirer of Wilf but he and Townsend continually lost the ball cheaply when they needed to help ease the pressure. Yep, Pardew never thought beyond 'Quick, get a goal.' A bit immature. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Jan 17 10.33am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Great admirer of Wilf but he and Townsend continually lost the ball cheaply when they needed to help ease the pressure.

Yep, Pardew never thought beyond 'Quick, get a goal.' A bit immature.

COYP

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