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davehuggins Flag 23 Dec 16 10.40am Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

This season for me something was not quite right, we changed our style of play and I'm afraid AP was not up to the task. Now we score goals but look what has happened at the back and the players are getting the blame!!

 

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Red & Blue Pharaoh Flag South London 23 Dec 16 10.43am Send a Private Message to Red & Blue Pharaoh Add Red & Blue Pharaoh as a friend

Obviously had doubts after last season, but was willing to start afresh..

But the WBA game on the first day of the season showed that nothing had really changed. Not only did we get Pulis'd, the performance was so flat from start to finish, and if anything - we looked like we had a weaker team.

Otherwise, West Ham at home. They were there for the taking and we were woeful again.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Dec 16 10.51am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I thought he should have gone at the end of last season. Getting to the Cup Final took attention away from issues that were apparent with league form.

I predicted he would be given until October, and of course we started to win games just as you think he could be on the brink.

I don't think sacking him when we did was great timing, but with the transfer window opening, I certainly wouldn't want Pardew involved.

 


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chateauferret Flag 23 Dec 16 10.57am

Bournemouth match, at half time. Thought with a revamped strike force we would score goals as well as being hard to break down so thought we would improve on last season. But when we came back we looked as if we'd spent the whole summer on the beach. Then against Bournemouth it became apparent that he had no policy who was supposed to take a pen and there was a squabble followed by Cabaye fluffing it.

We recovered from that with a couple of wins against poor sides and the winner at the Stadium of Sh!Te seemed to suggest that he hadn't completely lost it. But then it went t!The up with a series of Sh!Te defensive performances, stupid gambles and shameful bottle jobs. Obviously the crowning turd in the water-pipe was the disgraceful injury-time capitulation at Swansea, after which he was surely goosed.

 


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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 23 Dec 16 11.02am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Burnley away. Suicidal mission to try to get 3 points at the death when a hard earned point was in the bag.

 


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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 23 Dec 16 11.08am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't think he should have been sacked at anytime. Selling various players wasn't always his choice. If they want to go, then go they will.

We have obviously had a terrible run of results but there are many reasons for it. Pardew tried to alter the system because he felt it had become too predictable and teams were picking us off. Losing Bolasie made that even more necessary. We have suffered particularly damaging injuries to key players, as well as a loss of form from others. Neither was Pardew's fault. He had obviously decided that, in the short term at least, he needed to revert to a more rugged, less expansive, style, and it seemed to be paying dividends with a result against Southampton, and decent performances against Man U and Chelsea.

We obviously needed a shake up defensively, either with new coaching or personnel, but changing the guy at the top seems a big step to me, and probably a step backwards.

I worry that this step has been forced by the Americans and was not wanted by Parish who wanted, as I did, to close ranks and fight our way through. Allardyce is reported to have made an effective job application, backed up with a statistical dossier of where we were going wrong, a month or so ago and sent this to our "investors". If true, and it is them who has forced the issue, then does this mean that the way the club is run has changed for ever? We all thought that Steve Parish was the one who made the decisions but maybe that isn't true anymore.

Teams have still been picking us off so easily for far to long to believe that change wasn't required. Fair to change it but not willing to address problems if they occur was a mistake.

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Hoof Hearted 23 Dec 16 11.15am

SWansea was the last straw for a lot of people, but I had my doubts about his capabilities from the off. I gave him the benefit initially due to former legendary status and hoped he would be a good manager.

Buying and picking McCarthy to go in goal and persevering with him even when he was letting in daft goals.

Strange starting lineups like picking Lee and Mutch to start games ahead of Ledley.

Bizarre substitutions. Taking off McArthur for Campbell?

Gung-ho/Expansive football at the expense of a tight defence.

Poor purchases and disastrous sales.... Bolasie, Murray and Gayle were not replaced by better players overall. Our squad still has deficiencies today.

For the record I think he also suffered a lot of bad luck and sh!t refereeing decisions in his 2 year spell.

But... at the end of the day his record wasn't good enough and he was endangering our Premiership status.

We should be competing with the likes of WBA, Watford and Bournemouth in the league, NOT scrabbling around near the bottom.

Thanks for the good time Alan, but now is the time for you to go.

 

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Bangell Flag Oxford 23 Dec 16 11.20am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Swansea away. 3 points and a clean sheet against Soton made me hope he'd turned it around... Then 3-3 to Hull and it was clear that he'd lost the plot.

 

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 23 Dec 16 12.14pm

Never been a great fan of his as a player he was s***e and the same as a manager. He lies and just cannot be trusted. Was expecting him to be fired after the fa cup final but he clung on in there just like he did at Newcastle for all that time. He will do okas a Lower league manager.

 

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Podyonkers Flag Atlanta, Georgia 23 Dec 16 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Podyonkers Add Podyonkers as a friend

For me it was a bit more gradual.

Like many others, Swansea was the result that tried my patience, and had me questioning. But it was the way Pardew would take credit for wins and talk about himself, while throwing the players under the bus if we lost. I started to take notice of this recently and it really got on my nerves.

Have been an advocate for continuity and fighting through the hard times. I wanted to stick with Pardew for that reason, not because I thought he was a great manager. For the same reason I'll support the new manager now, whoever that may be.

 


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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 23 Dec 16 2.29pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

I'd backed him right up to swansea, I thought it would be dangerous to unsettle things until then, chopping and changing managers, I could see us doing a Fulham and Cardiff. But we looked all over place at the back at swansea, like a team with no leader!!
Bit like my old Sunday league team when our manager had to work

 

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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 23 Dec 16 2.55pm Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Burnley was the one for me. It was one late loss too many.

 


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