The fact is that these attacks were carried out by immigrants that our governments have allowed to come to Europe in huge numbers while at the same time waging war in their regions. No amount of intellectual wriggling can alter that fact.
As far as a war on terror is concerned. It is futile to assign blame on anyone for starting the process. At what point in history do you begin? WW1? WW2? The Crusades? The simple reality is that at some point you have to choose a side or hide from the conflict. The latter is becoming increasingly difficult.

The only agenda most people have is self preservation and the safety of those they care about.

You statement is a contradiction. How can the people be held responsible for a "dictatorship"?

But doesn't your logic also prove the contradiction of allowing hundreds of thousands to drown in the sea, because of the acts of a handful of nutters? Except in our case, we have voted for the governments who prop up these nutters, and pay tax which goes in to building bombs,aircraft missiles and the like which we then sell off to Saudi, Syria, Israel etc. It doesn't make us responsible, but we are in a position to change things, and for the sake of those fleeing war and famine, we really should be brave enough to do the right thing.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

But didn't IS say they would put fighters amongst the refugees....

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Michael, any sane person could see that opening up Europes borders to 'refugees' could result in battle hardened jihadists, bent on causing mayhem, arriving in the West.

Your bleeding heart crap does not detract from this. Chickens will come back to roost. Well done.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

And the side you choose is the one that points at innocent people and cries witch.

I'm a strong believer in not punishing innocent people for vague associations to the guilty made by groups with their own agenda. The price of a free and democratic society, is that some people will always f**k you over. You just have to deal with those individual cases.

Immigration is certainly out of control, but its the weak argument to say 'well because this person has links to overseas' then all immigration is to blame. Its not. We need control over immigration and to regulate it (because we aren't geographically constrained in the same way Europe is). As far as Europe goes, Freedom of movement is a necessity (and most countries have their own history of empire to thank for their migration 'woes').

Its also not an entirely one sided story either, as in Belgium, France and Germany the idea that migration is 'accepted and free' is a myth. In truth most migrants are second class citizens, scapegoats and experience high levels of alienation (and violence from nationalists). This in turn creates growing resentment that's exploited by small groups on either side, to pursue their prejudiced agendas which are about power and result in further exploitation and alienation.

Self preservation, well if that's your agenda you really shouldn't worry about terrorism, because its an incredibly tiny risk to life.

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