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phillanth  London 05 Dec 16 5.39pm |
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If we were 100% better at defending set pieces we'd have got an extra point against WBA, Spurs, Liverpool and Man City and all 3 points against Everton and Swansea. With half way decent defending we would have got a point at least at Burnley and had Benteke had not missed a pen against West Ham we'd have got another point from that game was well. That makes a total of 12 extra points which would put us in 6th place! I do not expect perfection however, but do believe that its not unreasonable to think we should have got an extra 6 points so far with half way competent defending.
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 DutchEagleJohan  Vlissingen, Netherlands 05 Dec 16 5.49pm |
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Should we? And why is that? We are not the only club raking in the tv money. As far as I can find online we have the 15th wage bill and 14th turn over. So now all lets keep on screaming we should sack the manager if we "underachieve". 6 defeats on the trot don't look good and it hurts but we might have to be ok with a bottom mid table position. I for one will be happy staying up though more is welcome of course. Thats why I want out strongest team out in cup games! Originally posted by dynamicdick
Top 10 is where we should be looking anything else should be deemed as an under achievement. Looking into my crystal ball it won't be with Pardew at the helm.
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alaneagle1  Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 05 Dec 16 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
We've played abysmally at times this season but not really been thrashed for it. Even in the Liverpool game our defending let us down and we gifted them 2 goals. With a tighter grip on the games we've played so far I reckon we'd be more than 6 points up. You seem to think we should WIN every game .!!!
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 05 Dec 16 11.21pm |
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I would never want us to lose games but my concern with Pardew is I feel it's going to be a common theme where we win two or three then go on on these horrendous winless streaks. It can't carry on like that as eventually you will get relegated. Hull is still a massive game and a game that let's be real here, we really should be winning. One win doesn't make him God again. I also don't expect us to win every game but we need to start hitting some consistency.... something we have struggled to do for nearly 12 months now.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 05 Dec 16 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I would never want us to lose games but my concern with Pardew is I feel it's going to be a common theme where we win two or three then go on on these horrendous winless streaks. It can't carry on like that as eventually you will get relegated. Hull is still a massive game and a game that let's be real here, we really should be winning. One win doesn't make him God again. I also don't expect us to win every game but we need to start hitting some consistency.... something we have struggled to do for nearly 12 months now. Can you remember the last time we had that?
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 05 Dec 16 11.48pm |
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Originally posted by alaneagle1
You seem to think we should WIN every game .!!! No ... but we've had abysmal spells in games that have cost us points and I think probably more than six so far. Anyway, at the end of the day we are where we are.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 06 Dec 16 1.34am |
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Originally posted by phillanth
If we were 100% better at defending set pieces we'd have got an extra point against WBA, Spurs, Liverpool and Man City and all 3 points against Everton and Swansea. With half way decent defending we would have got a point at least at Burnley and had Benteke had not missed a pen against West Ham we'd have got another point from that game was well. That makes a total of 12 extra points which would put us in 6th place! I do not expect perfection however, but do believe that its not unreasonable to think we should have got an extra 6 points so far with half way competent defending. good post. that's the thing, this transition of style has got us goals, but at what price?? it's cost us in defense. get the flare players in, sure, but also get the defenders who know the style, or at least perfect it in training. i saw in preseason this transition was too soon. Is it easier to change players over a season or change their style?
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| Inapickle South West 06 Dec 16 1.54am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
We've played abysmally at times this season but not really been thrashed for it. Even in the Liverpool game our defending let us down and we gifted them 2 goals. With a tighter grip on the games we've played so far I reckon we'd be more than 6 points up. ..you need to make your mind up.
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| Inapickle South West 06 Dec 16 2.00am |
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Originally posted by phillanth
If we were 100% better at defending set pieces we'd have got an extra point against WBA, Spurs, Liverpool and Man City and all 3 points against Everton and Swansea. With half way decent defending we would have got a point at least at Burnley and had Benteke had not missed a pen against West Ham we'd have got another point from that game was well. That makes a total of 12 extra points which would put us in 6th place! I do not expect perfection however, but do believe that its not unreasonable to think we should have got an extra 6 points so far with half way competent defending. ..yes and Pardew has nothing at all to do with silly individual cock-ups, the team owe him big time.
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| pink Northfleet, Kent 06 Dec 16 6.36am |
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Originally posted by laddo
I have serious concerns about Pardew and felt it was the last straw last week. However, that some people wanted us to lose on Saturday is utterly bizarre. What type of fans are these? I 100% want to be eating humble pie in a few months time. I 100% want pardew to get through this and be our manager for years to come. I have my doubts but whilst he's in charge and the players are still clearly playing for him, come kick off the team have my full backing. This is what we all should be doing. When palace fans join in with Swansea fans about being sacked in the morning you know we are in trouble. Welcome to the premier league!!
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| Johng 06 Dec 16 8.44am |
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Originally posted by MKCPFC
So , does anyone wish to confess to stating they wanted us to lose on Saturday ? Not looking for bragging rights , or anything , I am just curious (and I cannot be bothered to look through the original thread) did anyone say they wanted us to lose on Saturday ? Don't matter if you did , you clearly support Palace and want the best for Palace , just a different view.
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| Loz83 Crawley 06 Dec 16 8.49am |
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From what I've seen and heard most fans are behind pardew, it's a small minority of bed wetters that are not!
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