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 Andy_G  Wimbledon 05 Dec 16 10.21am |
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He listen to the senior pros once, will he do it again? I suspect his ego will mean he'll go back to his way.
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| The Dolphin 05 Dec 16 2.32pm |
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It is not about hating Pardew it is about how things have not been working and one win against a very poor side doesn't change this posters thoughts.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Dec 16 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
It is not about hating Pardew it is about how things have not been working and one win against a very poor side doesn't change this posters thoughts.
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 05 Dec 16 4.43pm |
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For those giving Pardew the credit for Saturday i find it shocking that despite the performance at Swansea he was ready to put out the same back four. It was only after a training session and a few of the players had words that things got changed. I give the players the credit too. Yes Pardew had to listen and be big enough to change things but a good manager would have spotted the signs a long time ago. He is out of his depth and when your players are telling you what to do and who to pick you have to do the right thing.
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| spartakev2 Anerley 05 Dec 16 4.57pm |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
For those giving Pardew the credit for Saturday i find it shocking that despite the performance at Swansea he was ready to put out the same back four. It was only after a training session and a few of the players had words that things got changed. I give the players the credit too. Yes Pardew had to listen and be big enough to change things but a good manager would have spotted the signs a long time ago. He is out of his depth and when your players are telling you what to do and who to pick you have to do the right thing. I do agree he had to listen to the players, but on the other hand some of those players worked their b***s off on saturday, throwing themselves in front of shots, tracking back, ptessing and not messing around with it at the back. If they had done this more over the last few weeks we wouldn't be where we are. Yes I know you can point the finger at AP and his trsinkng/tactics, but the players have got to take a good look at themselves too.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Dec 16 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
I do agree he had to listen to the players, but on the other hand some of those players worked their b***s off on saturday, throwing themselves in front of shots, tracking back, ptessing and not messing around with it at the back. If they had done this more over the last few weeks we wouldn't be where we are. Yes I know you can point the finger at AP and his trsinkng/tactics, but the players have got to take a good look at themselves too. They fought back from 2-0 down at Sunderland to win 3-2, they fought back from 2-0 to get it to 2-2 at Burnley and they fought back from 3-1 down at Swansea to lead 4-3 so they have shown their fighting qualities.
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| monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 05 Dec 16 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
They fought back from 2-0 down at Sunderland to win 3-2, they fought back from 2-0 to get it to 2-2 at Burnley and they fought back from 3-1 down at Swansea to lead 4-3 so they have shown their fighting qualities. Good shout willo, I've read bollox like he's lost the dressing room, which is clearly not true,we're competitive in every game, no-ones given us a good hiding!! we just needed to stop the flow of goals against, which at least the swansea game forced the issue!!
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| Medway Eagle Whitstable Kent 05 Dec 16 5.52pm |
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Willo I get your point that the team are giving everything, But as you state we keep fighting back, We should not be in the position where virtually every match we were alway facing an uphill battle to get anything from the game, There must be a reason for such poor quality defending and I don't think it was the players lack of ability, More the way they have been set up and guided. Lets hope the Management team have learnt a lesson and play too our strengths, Then we can all forget about the AP in or out situation. Hull City is a big game for us Originally posted by Willo
They fought back from 2-0 down at Sunderland to win 3-2, they fought back from 2-0 to get it to 2-2 at Burnley and they fought back from 3-1 down at Swansea to lead 4-3 so they have shown their fighting qualities.
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| Aray South London 06 Dec 16 12.44am |
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Some good points made on here. I think the key point I was trying to get at is that the way the players responded and took on responsibility suggests the team spirit is there and they're playing for Pardew. He clearly had to take their views on board given the circumstances but still he's not lost the dressing room.
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| Thegamesafoot Somewhere but Nowhere 06 Dec 16 1.30am |
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Though not always the right way a middle way should not be blithely disregarded.
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| Inapickle South West 06 Dec 16 2.04am |
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Originally posted by Terry Vegetables
Southampton had many chances to score yesterday & just weren't on it with final touch. I'd be much happier if they hadn't had so many opportunities, but they had loads which is forgotten once weve won. It was a great win but let's not get carried away with rose & bluebell tinted spectacles. (Im not a pardew hater) ..so it wasn't our players that stopped them from scoring, you need specsavers and quick!
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| Inapickle South West 06 Dec 16 2.06am |
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Originally posted by Aray
Some good points made on here. I think the key point I was trying to get at is that the way the players responded and took on responsibility suggests the team spirit is there and they're playing for Pardew. He clearly had to take their views on board given the circumstances but still he's not lost the dressing room. ...and have you only just noticed that?
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