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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 09 Nov 16 9.30am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Hmm, you seem to have an agenda. I suspect America will look back at the Obama days and wake up to the fact he did a surprisingly good job in the face of massive opposition. He is also an especially cool bloke. Now counter-pose The Donald... Where do I seem to have an agenda? It's a rational thought. A vote for Trump, in my view, is a vote for change, any change, driven by a mass public disenchantment with politics and perceived corruption at top-level Government, business and media. I think Americans (who voted for him) think Trump will come in, shake things up, and the anti-Clinton feeling can't be underestimated. So, if Obama had united communities and rung some changes of his own, then surely people would want to keep his party in power no? You're obviously very pro-Obama if you think he's especially cool. Edited by Frickin Saweet (09 Nov 2016 9.32am)
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Jamesrichards8 09 Nov 16 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
Where do I seem to have an agenda? It's a rational thought. A vote for Trump, in my view, is a vote for change, any change, driven by a mass public disenchantment with politics and perceived corruption at top-level Government, business and media. I think Americans (who voted for him) think Trump will come in, shake things up, and the anti-Clinton feeling can't be underestimated. So, if Obama had united communities and rung some changes of his own, then surely people would want to keep his party in power no? You're obviously very pro-Obama if you think he's especially cool. Edited by Frickin Saweet (09 Nov 2016 9.32am) You're totally right. It's hilarious that many of you are condemning him for his social skills and his temperament when it's his political views that actually matter, and in the end they have aligned with most of America. FS you are correct and the fact that many black voters failed to support Clinton shows that obama failed miserably at the promises he made in 2008
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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Nov 16 9.39am | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
Where do I seem to have an agenda? It's a rational thought. A vote for Trump, in my view, is a vote for change, any change, driven by a mass public disenchantment with politics and perceived corruption at top-level Government, business and media. I think Americans (who voted for him) think Trump will come in, shake things up, and the anti-Clinton feeling can't be underestimated. So, if Obama had united communities and rung some changes of his own, then surely people would want to keep his party in power no? You're obviously very pro-Obama if you think he's especially cool. Edited by Frickin Saweet (09 Nov 2016 9.32am) If you don't understand now that Presidential elections are all about personalities more so than politics then you never will. If Obama were able to run for a third term he would have walked it against Trump. Even deeply Republican Kentucky will vote for a Democrat nominee if he is from the Deep South a la Carter and Clinton. Hillary was simply the very wrong choice. The Gordon Brown of Democrat history.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Nov 16 9.46am | |
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That's democracy for you. The question is whether he can survive potential fraud charges over Trump University and a law suit for sex with a minor, which are on the immediate horizon. The later maybe, the former looks worrying. And yes, the Trump may be bad, but Pence is a total c**t.
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Nov 16 9.50am | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
Where do I seem to have an agenda? It's a rational thought. A vote for Trump, in my view, is a vote for change, any change, driven by a mass public disenchantment with politics and perceived corruption at top-level Government, business and media. I think Americans (who voted for him) think Trump will come in, shake things up, and the anti-Clinton feeling can't be underestimated. So, if Obama had united communities and rung some changes of his own, then surely people would want to keep his party in power no? You're obviously very pro-Obama if you think he's especially cool. Edited by Frickin Saweet (09 Nov 2016 9.32am) Let's try that again You seem to have an agenda against Obama. Obama doesn't make silly comments and has been immensely statesmanlike throughout his term. It is bizarre how negatively the America populace views the Health Care Act. I suspect some of the hatred is whipped up by a media 'encouraged' by the big medical insurers. The US system is massively inefficient yet Obama did wrong, really? And as for he should have made more change, how exactly when the Republicans lined up against him on every issue and held the balance of power?
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paperhat croydon 09 Nov 16 9.57am | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
I know it's actually impossible to say as he's not even been sworn in yet but from a gut instinct point of view does anyone think . Just curious to hear what people think I think that will be quite high up on the agenda of lot of the loons....
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 09 Nov 16 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Let's try that again You seem to have an agenda against Obama. Obama doesn't make silly comments and has been immensely statesmanlike throughout his term. It is bizarre how negatively the America populace views the Health Care Act. I suspect some of the hatred is whipped up by a media 'encouraged' by the big medical insurers. The US system is massively inefficient yet Obama did wrong, really? And as for he should have made more change, how exactly when the Republicans lined up against him on every issue and held the balance of power? I don't particularly care one way or another for any of the senior US political figures, so my opinion is quite balanced and my questions aren't loaded. I don't think Obama is in any way cool, nor do I dislike him. You're obviously an Obama fanboy hence you've got defensive when I've questioned him. I think it still stands though - if Obama had united a country, or at least seen the green shoots of something like that happening, there wouldn't be such an appetite for change from the American people. It's not the only factor at play I know.
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Nov 16 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by paperhat
I think that will be quite high up on the agenda of lot of the loons.... Good job advanced weaponry isn't available freely to the general populace then.
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 09 Nov 16 10.09am | |
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Americans need to do some serious soul searching and ask questions of themselves as to what has gone so wrong with the Obama legacy that people have veered so far towards Trump. This isn't a handful of people we are talking about. Why has this happened
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Mapletree Croydon 09 Nov 16 10.09am | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
I don't particularly care one way or another for any of the senior US political figures, so my opinion is quite balanced and my questions aren't loaded. I don't think Obama is in any way cool, nor do I dislike him. You're obviously an Obama fanboy hence you've got defensive when I've questioned him. I think it still stands though - if Obama had united a country, or at least seen the green shoots of something like that happening, there wouldn't be such an appetite for change from the American people. It's not the only factor at play I know. I am not defensive, I speak as I find. You made unsubstantiated negative comments about someone I have observed to have done a decent job in a difficult situation. Obama fanboy - stupid comment. On the other hand you are 'balanced' by implying there is no difference between Trump and Obama. Really? Do you ever read/watch the media? You can observe the comments each has made on a daily basis yet you come out with this rubbish.
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 09 Nov 16 10.12am | |
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The lazy arguments all over social media that America has showed itself as racist. Not everyone who voted for trump is a racist, not every one would have voted for reasons of race. There are so many more factors at play and as I say the Clinton era probably has a lot to do with it. I wouldn't bet against Michelle Obama being a democrat candidate one day
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Hoof Hearted 09 Nov 16 10.23am | |
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The Brexit Trump double! Nigel Farage 2 Barack Obama 0. 2016 is one of the most exciting years I have ever experienced (born 1954). Lots of knee jerk reactions expected today from the usual suspects - but give it time and the world will probably see a better USA in 4 years time than the one Obama will hand over. Talk of assassination is a bit premature and disingenuous... Trump is only President elect right now. When he does get into power though it will be interesting to see which of Trump's pre-election promises he achieves first.... Locking Up Hilary? Building the Wall and getting the Mexicans to pay for it? Banning Muslims from entering the USA? i suspect they were tongue-in-cheek, grandstanding boasts as is typical of his on stage persona. I reckon he will turn out to be a pragmatic achiever and with the Republican majority at all political levels in Washington should get things moving. His appointment will also be good for us if he keeps his promise to put The UK ahead of EU for trade negotiation once we have formally left the EU. The dawn of a new era.
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