What were the pieces of luck that went their way? The Puncheon corner going to the first man, the higher intensity of Burnley to win the ball?

Also, you can talk all about luck but it evens out. We could argue we were lucky when we beat Sunderland in last minute, equalised against Bournemouth etc. We are under performing and you can't dress it up as anything else. We've had an easy start to the season and have not achieved the points we should've.

The bad luck involved the clearance on the line for when it rebounded back off his own leg for their first goal, nothing to do with our corner and the second when the shot was half stopped and it still managed to creep in, against Bournemouth we were all over them like a rash and to not get that goal would have been terrible bad luck and against Sunderland Benteke's header was brilliant, no luck in that at all.

Edited by Inapickle (07 Nov 2016 1.33am)

But there are those who will offer an alternative viewpoint:
Making a hash of a clearance for the first and a goalkeeping error for the second.

I'm just aghast that having pulled it back to 2-2 we got caught on the break throwing men forward in the way we did in time added on at the end of the game.Ridiculous.

Edited by Willo (07 Nov 2016 8.25am)

So let's be cavalier in every game ?

It's not just a question of committing players forward, it's numbers we commit to attacking positions and positions taken up by players to counter a quick break.Also the position of the free kick has to be taken into consideration.

At Burnley, how easy was it for them to break through our lines and be ahead of the midfielders very quickly and this gave them the chance to get at the covering defenders.I'm sure this will be analysed by Mr Pardew !

Over a season it is pragmatic to take a more "Safety first" approach in certain circumstances rather than refer to the "Transitional" handbook !!!!

Edited by Willo (07 Nov 2016 9.00am)

..he needs to be, if he doesn't believe he can do it there's not much point, so the reason for your new post is to mention everything that has already been mentioned but for you to highlight the fact you don't like his arrogance.
Exactly how is removing a manager going to stop our players making ridiculous silly mistakes then?

I wonder this quite often with Pardew, He does make strange substitutions at times. I wonder if Wickham coming on and scoring with his first touch put it in Pardews head that another change might have the same impact giving him all the plaudits for brilliant substitutions. Would not surprise me. In our last few games we have been torn apart at the back and rumour was they have been working on the defence in training. Its not working clearly. Fairplay for the fightback and they worked their socks off and deserved better but if you make mistakes in the Premier League you get punished. We did not learn from the previous breakaways that Burnley had and changed nothing to counteract it. Pardew lacks tactical nouse and managers like Pulis would have changed things within 15 minutes to stop it happening.