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Inapickle South West 06 Nov 16 8.02pm
Originally posted by sueagle2012 We miss Jedinak as captain and for his defensive cover, protecting Delaney, Dann and Tomkins. With Delaney in the team, there is no way we would have conceded 2 goals from corners against Liverpool. With Jedinak, it is unlikely we would have been so open at the back as were against Leicester and Burnley. Dann does not seem to have the same leadership qualities as Jedinak. Was Dann, in his role as captain to blame for the poor defensive organisation vs Burnley, especially for the last goal ? Edited by sueagle2012 (06 Nov 2016 7.32pm) ..EFA.
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Inapickle

South West 06 Nov 16 8.02pm

Originally posted by sueagle2012

We miss Jedinak as captain and for his defensive cover, protecting Delaney, Dann and Tomkins.

With Delaney in the team, there is no way we would have conceded 2 goals from corners against Liverpool.

With Jedinak, it is unlikely we would have been so open at the back as were against Leicester and Burnley.

Dann does not seem to have the same leadership qualities as Jedinak. Was Dann, in his role as captain to blame for the poor defensive organisation vs Burnley, especially for the last goal ?

Edited by sueagle2012 (06 Nov 2016 7.32pm)

..EFA.

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 06 Nov 16 8.06pm
We have a more able version in Flamini we just don't play him.
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We have a more able version in Flamini we just don't play him.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Nov 16 8.11pm
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle We have a more able version in Flamini we just don't play him. He's still wiping off the treacle he was running through as a substitute a month ago. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Nov 16 8.11pm

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

We have a more able version in Flamini we just don't play him.

He's still wiping off the treacle he was running through as a substitute a month ago.

COYP

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Part Time James 06 Nov 16 8.29pm
We wrong wrong to sell goal machine Aaron Wilbraham.
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06 Nov 16 8.29pm

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We wrong wrong to sell goal machine Aaron Wilbraham.

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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 8.40pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman He was still wiping off the treacle he was running through as a substitute a month ago, when he overtook Jedi. EFA If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 8.40pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He was still wiping off the treacle he was running through as a substitute a month ago, when he overtook Jedi.

EFA

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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dynamicdick Dormansland 06 Nov 16 8.59pm
Originally posted by Inapickle ..Jedinak was awful and he would have been as awful against Burnley as all our luck was, their third goal was lost in our attack not our defence and they scored very well with it without any further help from us, the first goal was actually cleared away on the line but unluckily rebounded back, the defence was there to clear it and through luck failed..nothing more, the second was also very unfortunate for the keeper as the ball not only rebounded towards goal but also under the bar, it was a mistake that would probably never happen in another hundred similar situations for him, we must not also forget the mistake that their defender made with handling the ball for our second. You make your own luck and our leaking goals has nothing to do with that. Bring back Brolin
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dynamicdick

Dormansland 06 Nov 16 8.59pm

Originally posted by Inapickle

..Jedinak was awful and he would have been as awful against Burnley as all our luck was, their third goal was lost in our attack not our defence and they scored very well with it without any further help from us, the first goal was actually cleared away on the line but unluckily rebounded back, the defence was there to clear it and through luck failed..nothing more, the second was also very unfortunate for the keeper as the ball not only rebounded towards goal but also under the bar, it was a mistake that would probably never happen in another hundred similar situations for him, we must not also forget the mistake that their defender made with handling the ball for our second.

You make your own luck and our leaking goals has nothing to do with that.

Bring back Brolin

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Gerry1 staines 06 Nov 16 10.16pm
It's worth looking at what's on the Villa site. Loads of comments but the most relevant to our situation: " Jedinak is turning into different class. Not just last week at the Sty but today after both goals he was more into refocusing players and directing rather than celebrating. He's a real gem and leader....." And. Jedinak was superb....very strong". Sounds like just the sort of player we could have done with yesterday!!
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staines 06 Nov 16 10.16pm

It's worth looking at what's on the Villa site. Loads of comments but the most relevant to our situation: " Jedinak is turning into different class. Not just last week at the Sty but today after both goals he was more into refocusing players and directing rather than celebrating. He's a real gem and leader....." And. Jedinak was superb....very strong". Sounds like just the sort of player we could have done with yesterday!!

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Palace03 06 Nov 16 10.19pm
Might as well sign Shaun Derry back! Jedi was terrific but we need to go forwards not backwards! COYP
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06 Nov 16 10.19pm

Might as well sign Shaun Derry back! Jedi was terrific but we need to go forwards not backwards! COYP

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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 10.32pm
Originally posted by Gerry1 It's worth looking at what's on the Villa site. Loads of comments but the most relevant to our situation: " Jedinak is turning into different class. Not just last week at the Sty but today after both goals he was more into refocusing players and directing rather than celebrating. He's a real gem and leader....." And. Jedinak was superb....very strong". Sounds like just the sort of player we could have done with yesterday!! Then look at our record with him in the side over the last two seasons. It is dreadful. As for Villa, they've not had a single player fighting for the cause for three seasons. For them, in the Championship, he probably does look good. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 06 Nov 16 10.32pm

Originally posted by Gerry1

Then look at our record with him in the side over the last two seasons. It is dreadful.

As for Villa, they've not had a single player fighting for the cause for three seasons. For them, in the Championship, he probably does look good.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Painter Croydon 06 Nov 16 10.59pm
Originally posted by Gerry1 It's worth looking at what's on the Villa site. Loads of comments but the most relevant to our situation: " Jedinak is turning into different class. Not just last week at the Sty but today after both goals he was more into refocusing players and directing rather than celebrating. He's a real gem and leader....." And. Jedinak was superb....very strong". Sounds like just the sort of player we could have done with yesterday!! Wasn't he playing for us, earlier in the year, when we couldn't win a game. He was no great help then, why do you think he will be now. He ain't good enough for the Premier, it's a bit obvious, but it needs to be pointed out to some people, who have selective memories.
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Painter

Croydon 06 Nov 16 10.59pm

Originally posted by Gerry1

Wasn't he playing for us, earlier in the year, when we couldn't win a game. He was no great help then, why do you think he will be now.

He ain't good enough for the Premier, it's a bit obvious, but it needs to be pointed out to some people, who have selective memories.

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The Dolphin 07 Nov 16 8.56am
Originally posted by Palace03 Might as well sign Shaun Derry back! Jedi was terrific but we need to go forwards not backwards! COYP Need to go forwards - really? Do you think that Ledley/Mutch/Lee/ are better than Jedinak? We have not even replaced him - like no ordinary (that is what we are) team needs someone to sit in front of the back four and break up play - of course they do! We have no on the field leader - Dann is proving to be poor in that regard. People said his passing was poor - have you seen our passing this season - it is a shambles! Jedinak was brought back in to the side by Pardew last season (reluctantly) and without him we may well have gone down. A leader even when he doesn't play every week is worth his weight in gold - trust me. He is a huge loss and one that AP will rue. Jedinak playing against the likes of West Brom, Burnley etc may well have got us points. He loves Palace and would have stayed and it still annoys me that Pardew just let him go. In my opinion his worst single mistake in his tenure as our Manager.
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The Dolphin

07 Nov 16 8.56am

Originally posted by Palace03

Might as well sign Shaun Derry back! Jedi was terrific but we need to go forwards not backwards! COYP

Need to go forwards - really?
Do you think that Ledley/Mutch/Lee/ are better than Jedinak?
We have not even replaced him - like no ordinary (that is what we are) team needs someone to sit in front of the back four and break up play - of course they do!
We have no on the field leader - Dann is proving to be poor in that regard.
People said his passing was poor - have you seen our passing this season - it is a shambles!
Jedinak was brought back in to the side by Pardew last season (reluctantly) and without him we may well have gone down.
A leader even when he doesn't play every week is worth his weight in gold - trust me.
He is a huge loss and one that AP will rue.
Jedinak playing against the likes of West Brom, Burnley etc may well have got us points.
He loves Palace and would have stayed and it still annoys me that Pardew just let him go.
In my opinion his worst single mistake in his tenure as our Manager.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 07 Nov 16 3.21pm
Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle It's a valid point. Jedinak is missing in the dressing room, on the pitch when things get tough, and at training. We've never looked so ill-prepared as we have without him, which gives insight as to his hidden value in getting the players up to standard. If we had to replace him, which was also valid, then we had to replace him with someone who would replace his off-the-field leadership and on-the-field courage and determination. We let him go without doing that and we are missing him. It's a good point. And BTW, someone laughed at me for suggesting Zaha at LB some time ago - well guess where he played? Players with Jedi's attributes are hard to come by unfortunately. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 07 Nov 16 3.21pm

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

It's a valid point. Jedinak is missing in the dressing room, on the pitch when things get tough, and at training. We've never looked so ill-prepared as we have without him, which gives insight as to his hidden value in getting the players up to standard. If we had to replace him, which was also valid, then we had to replace him with someone who would replace his off-the-field leadership and on-the-field courage and determination. We let him go without doing that and we are missing him. It's a good point.

And BTW, someone laughed at me for suggesting Zaha at LB some time ago - well guess where he played?

Players with Jedi's attributes are hard to come by unfortunately.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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