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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
We already have a thread devoted to black people being killed by police so let's keep this one on immigration to UK issues Sure, though I didn't bring the topic up first.
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
?????? I was consistent in my use of the word 'restriction' rather than 'ban'. It is not I who should be looking in the mirror. No, you agreed with the original proposition that entry should be be put on hold for Islamic immigration. "definite yes from me" you said in answer to the OPs question So that ban would include 3 million US citizens (sportsmen, businessmen, academics,etc), 70,000 Irish citizens, 1 million Canadians, 200,000 Japanese and a massive other country list that goes on and on who also have muslims as part of their population make-up.
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So, you've stopped all muslim immigration. What are you going to do about those homegrown radicalised terrorists that have been responsible for nearly all the major terrorist attacks in recent times?
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Originally posted by DanH
So, you've stopped all muslim immigration. What are you going to do about those homegrown radicalised terrorists that have been responsible for nearly all the major terrorist attacks in recent times? Easy. Make all muslims wear a star of David Hasselhoff.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sure, though I didn't bring the topic up first. I don't think you read the post from Mapletree correctly. He was (obviously sarcastically) calling on banning US police officers because of the number of people they kill, you are the one that assumed he meant black people.
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
Yes- there are times of world crisis and chaos when political correctness and racial equality must take a back seat, for the sake of the greater good. If even one 'net' life is saved then it must be seen as a good thing. People must prioritize safety over equality, only for a few years until the world is at a less volatile state. This was the mindset of the US government when interning Japanese citizens, for fear of sleeping support for the Japanese (of which there was proof) in the United States. This decision is criticized today, but how many American lives may it have saved? Sorry mate but you simply can't compare the internment of the Japanese with what's happening today - they are entirely different scenarios.
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Originally posted by 7mins
I'd defo be up for tighter checks on muzzies coming from Isis controlled regions. When Isis said they were gonna use the immigration crisis to get terrorists in to Europe, a studio guest at radio 5 said... It's a price worth paying. Also when the immigrants went on that rapey rampage in Germany, one girl held a sign up afterwards saying "I'd rather have rapists than racists" The left are almost as dangerous as the right In fairness, in terms of Germany, racists do have a rather black history, where as rapists haven't really organised a country with a view to a 1000 years of power It is a price worth paying, IS using refugee crisis to get terrorists in country x - because its a really stupid way to move operatives around. Obviously you have to screen and process all asylum applicants, but I think people seriously misunderstand how many Muslims are not actually anti-IS etc but how many are actually in the front line fighting against Islamists like IS (as well as fleeing from them). We can't win a war by alienating our key ally in that war.
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good watch when you have the time the kurds are doing a great job they should get more support they already claimed x2 the territory from isis control and are still making progress but they are now fearful of an attack from turkey as the kurds push closer to the border just give it a watch
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Banning Muslims – good idea, while we are at it ban Sikhs, they are aggressive buggers and some Muslims might be pretend to be Sikhs. You can’t be too careful. Then the Catholics, don’t forget the Spanish inquisition, 30 year war and of course closer to home Northern Ireland. Also Hitler was a catholic so let’s ban Germans (and Austrians) and their cars too. I am sure there's a few more we could exclude as well
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Originally posted by Straightbackup
Sorry mate but you simply can't compare the internment of the Japanese with what's happening today - they are entirely different scenarios. Its important to remember that IS aren't just about blowing up people, they do have a coherent strategic goal, the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate, and see themselves as drawn into a conflict with the west as we see that, rightly, as unacceptable. Groups like Al-Quaeda and IS don't really give to many f**ks about the UK, other than the NATO engagement in the conflict in Syria. They're much more interested in countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Whilst some who support them from the UK have ideas about a Sharia Law UK under strict Islamic laws, IS core command likely see that as a convenient source of supporters and recruiters - and an means of striking back against the bombings by NATO aircraft. Of course for us, the ideal situation is for our Jyhadi inspired troublemakers and potential future terrorists, to travel to Syria, and get killed, disillusioned etc. Problem is, those that don't will come back. In some ways it may have been better to not remotely try to prevent people travelling to fight for IS, as it would have made them easier to identify....
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