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 topcat  Holmesdale / Surbiton 13 Jan 16 5.07pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Jan 2016 4.15pm
Quote The Sash at 13 Jan 2016 3.03pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Jan 2016 1.09pm
Quote nickgusset at 13 Jan 2016 9.20am
How the bloody hell do companies like this keep getting contracts?
We need a return to the good old days You f***in' well do now, slag! There's no dolly mixtures here, poofter! I'm the Daddy and don't you ever forget it, right? Scum. You can't call The Sash scum. Now, where's your tool?
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regal_eagle  somewhere 13 Jan 16 5.29pm |
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Earlier today I walked past a G4S car parked down my road with the driver skinning up inside it. Was rather tempted to take a photo.
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 13 Jan 16 5.54pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 13 Jan 2016 11.28am
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Quote nickgusset at 13 Jan 2016 9.20am
How the bloody hell do companies like this keep getting contracts? Just wait until they more or less take over the Police!! Believe me it's what that thing who is the Home Secretary wants. Lots of rumours that Mrs Mays husband Phillip is a shareholder in G4S... Neither confirmed or denied by her or him... If true surely a conflict of interest?! Easily obtainable information. Why don't you check first? Had a look on Google which is about the extent of my computer skills but couldn't find a definitive answer. Some websites said yes, some said no. Sorry about that?!!
Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!! |
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 14 Jan 16 10.08am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Jan 2016 4.15pm
Quote The Sash at 13 Jan 2016 3.03pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Jan 2016 1.09pm
Quote nickgusset at 13 Jan 2016 9.20am
How the bloody hell do companies like this keep getting contracts?
We need a return to the good old days
Scum.
There is nothing better than getting a ne'er do well back in line like raping him in a greenhouse...
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Jan 16 11.32am |
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Quote The Sash at 14 Jan 2016 10.08am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Jan 2016 4.15pm
Quote The Sash at 13 Jan 2016 3.03pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Jan 2016 1.09pm
Quote nickgusset at 13 Jan 2016 9.20am
How the bloody hell do companies like this keep getting contracts?
We need a return to the good old days
Scum.
There is nothing better than getting a ne'er do well back in line like raping him in a greenhouse... Its character building. The UK prison system has become a farce, with discount terms for guilty pleas, automatic early release to make room for incoming prisoners, cuts that undermine rehabilitation, education and security of prisoners and staff. We're dangerously going down the 'US approach' of creating 'animal factories', and politicians who entirely base re-election on 'justice tickets' that amount to inflicting punishment for its own sake.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 14 Jan 16 7.21pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 14 Jan 2016 11.32am
Quote The Sash at 14 Jan 2016 10.08am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Jan 2016 4.15pm
Quote The Sash at 13 Jan 2016 3.03pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 13 Jan 2016 1.09pm
Quote nickgusset at 13 Jan 2016 9.20am
How the bloody hell do companies like this keep getting contracts?
We need a return to the good old days
Scum.
There is nothing better than getting a ne'er do well back in line like raping him in a greenhouse... Its character building. The UK prison system has become a farce, with discount terms for guilty pleas, automatic early release to make room for incoming prisoners, cuts that undermine rehabilitation, education and security of prisoners and staff. We're dangerously going down the 'US approach' of creating 'animal factories', and politicians who entirely base re-election on 'justice tickets' that amount to inflicting punishment for its own sake. True. Once you encourage "prisons for profit", why would the likes of Serco, G4S and politicians on their consultancy payrolls want a situation where reoffending rates decrease?
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| Hoof Hearted 15 Jan 16 10.24am | |
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My niece's husband Glenn works as a screw at Wandsworth and is lucky enough now to be on the team that monitors the video footage. For decades he was on the cell blocks parading amongst the inmates and has seen and experienced all sorts of stuff over the years that he has shared with me when I've asked about it. Basically most prisoners are prepared to knuckle down and do their time, but a fair proportion cause the grief... like throwing urine down into the communal areas and throwing scalding hot sugared tea into inmate's faces etc etc. He says it is a jungle in there and you have to resort to dirty tricks to overpower violent inmates who have nothing to lose and maiming an officer carries kudos for that community. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I doubt that it will shock me or change my opinion of what goes on and what you have to do to survive. The business at the mental home with bullying/abuse to vulnerable mental patients was a disgrace, but we are talking about a different environment here with young thugs intent on causing mayhem to property and people that need keeping in check. A softly softly approach would be useless and totally ineffective if you want to control their violent behaviour. A hard line physically together with counselling on anger management issues is what is required here. Edited by Hoof Hearted (15 Jan 2016 10.25am)
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 15 Jan 16 11.43am |
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Had a good friend who was given early release from prison on a home detention curfew. He had to wear a tag and the women from G4S who was employed to fit the tag called him 1hr before she was due to arrive and cancelled the appointment saying she was sick and someone would reschedule. Nobody ever did. 3 months later G4S contacted him to come and remove the tag, When he explained what had happened the guy on the phone said, another one you will be surprised how many times this happens.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 15 Jan 16 1.17pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 10.24am
My niece's husband Glenn works as a screw at Wandsworth and is lucky enough now to be on the team that monitors the video footage. For decades he was on the cell blocks parading amongst the inmates and has seen and experienced all sorts of stuff over the years that he has shared with me when I've asked about it. Basically most prisoners are prepared to knuckle down and do their time, but a fair proportion cause the grief... like throwing urine down into the communal areas and throwing scalding hot sugared tea into inmate's faces etc etc. He says it is a jungle in there and you have to resort to dirty tricks to overpower violent inmates who have nothing to lose and maiming an officer carries kudos for that community. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I doubt that it will shock me or change my opinion of what goes on and what you have to do to survive. The business at the mental home with bullying/abuse to vulnerable mental patients was a disgrace, but we are talking about a different environment here with young thugs intent on causing mayhem to property and people that need keeping in check. A softly softly approach would be useless and totally ineffective if you want to control their violent behaviour. A hard line physically together with counselling on anger management issues is what is required here. Edited by Hoof Hearted (15 Jan 2016 10.25am) What a load of bollocks. I've actually worked in the Service (prior to leaving it to teach). The ONLY way to keep order in an adult nick more secure than an Open is to run the wings with the "consent" of the prisoners. Staffing levels are so low that any sort of "hard line" physical approach will only lead to assaults on staff and smashing up. The staff give some leeway to the leading players on the wings, who do a bit of in-house policing themselves to keep things sweet. The rough stuff gets saved for the Seg Unit and three man team removals to said Seg Unit.
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| Hoof Hearted 15 Jan 16 4.44pm | |
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Quote Mr_Gristle at 15 Jan 2016 1.17pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 10.24am
My niece's husband Glenn works as a screw at Wandsworth and is lucky enough now to be on the team that monitors the video footage. For decades he was on the cell blocks parading amongst the inmates and has seen and experienced all sorts of stuff over the years that he has shared with me when I've asked about it. Basically most prisoners are prepared to knuckle down and do their time, but a fair proportion cause the grief... like throwing urine down into the communal areas and throwing scalding hot sugared tea into inmate's faces etc etc. He says it is a jungle in there and you have to resort to dirty tricks to overpower violent inmates who have nothing to lose and maiming an officer carries kudos for that community. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I doubt that it will shock me or change my opinion of what goes on and what you have to do to survive. The business at the mental home with bullying/abuse to vulnerable mental patients was a disgrace, but we are talking about a different environment here with young thugs intent on causing mayhem to property and people that need keeping in check. A softly softly approach would be useless and totally ineffective if you want to control their violent behaviour. A hard line physically together with counselling on anger management issues is what is required here. Edited by Hoof Hearted (15 Jan 2016 10.25am) What a load of bollocks. I've actually worked in the Service (prior to leaving it to teach). The ONLY way to keep order in an adult nick more secure than an Open is to run the wings with the "consent" of the prisoners. Staffing levels are so low that any sort of "hard line" physical approach will only lead to assaults on staff and smashing up. The staff give some leeway to the leading players on the wings, who do a bit of in-house policing themselves to keep things sweet. The rough stuff gets saved for the Seg Unit and three man team removals to said Seg Unit. I gave an account of what I heard from my niece's husband - a veteran of 20 years service in Wandsworth. So not bollocks. My "advice" related to the G4S problem at a YOI and not an adult nick. I already conceded that my screw relative was thankful that he was not in the firing line any more at Wandsworth. The point I was trying to make was that life in prison isn't all tea and scones - any footage showing prison officers taking a hard line with inmates is par for the course as they quickly need to subdue violence before it escalates. I can quite imagine that in the adult prisons some "deals" are done with those prisoners considered topdogs to keep a lid on the place.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Jan 16 4.57pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 4.44pm
Quote Mr_Gristle at 15 Jan 2016 1.17pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 10.24am
My niece's husband Glenn works as a screw at Wandsworth and is lucky enough now to be on the team that monitors the video footage. For decades he was on the cell blocks parading amongst the inmates and has seen and experienced all sorts of stuff over the years that he has shared with me when I've asked about it. Basically most prisoners are prepared to knuckle down and do their time, but a fair proportion cause the grief... like throwing urine down into the communal areas and throwing scalding hot sugared tea into inmate's faces etc etc. He says it is a jungle in there and you have to resort to dirty tricks to overpower violent inmates who have nothing to lose and maiming an officer carries kudos for that community. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I doubt that it will shock me or change my opinion of what goes on and what you have to do to survive. The business at the mental home with bullying/abuse to vulnerable mental patients was a disgrace, but we are talking about a different environment here with young thugs intent on causing mayhem to property and people that need keeping in check. A softly softly approach would be useless and totally ineffective if you want to control their violent behaviour. A hard line physically together with counselling on anger management issues is what is required here. Edited by Hoof Hearted (15 Jan 2016 10.25am) What a load of bollocks. I've actually worked in the Service (prior to leaving it to teach). The ONLY way to keep order in an adult nick more secure than an Open is to run the wings with the "consent" of the prisoners. Staffing levels are so low that any sort of "hard line" physical approach will only lead to assaults on staff and smashing up. The staff give some leeway to the leading players on the wings, who do a bit of in-house policing themselves to keep things sweet. The rough stuff gets saved for the Seg Unit and three man team removals to said Seg Unit. I gave an account of what I heard from my niece's husband - a veteran of 20 years service in Wandsworth. So not bollocks. My "advice" related to the G4S problem at a YOI and not an adult nick. I already conceded that my screw relative was thankful that he was not in the firing line any more at Wandsworth. The point I was trying to make was that life in prison isn't all tea and scones - any footage showing prison officers taking a hard line with inmates is par for the course as they quickly need to subdue violence before it escalates. I can quite imagine that in the adult prisons some "deals" are done with those prisoners considered topdogs to keep a lid on the place. Fair enough Hoof - in hindsight I went in there a bit strong.
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| Hoof Hearted 17 Jan 16 10.27am | |
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Quote Mr_Gristle at 16 Jan 2016 4.57pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 4.44pm
Quote Mr_Gristle at 15 Jan 2016 1.17pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Jan 2016 10.24am
My niece's husband Glenn works as a screw at Wandsworth and is lucky enough now to be on the team that monitors the video footage. For decades he was on the cell blocks parading amongst the inmates and has seen and experienced all sorts of stuff over the years that he has shared with me when I've asked about it. Basically most prisoners are prepared to knuckle down and do their time, but a fair proportion cause the grief... like throwing urine down into the communal areas and throwing scalding hot sugared tea into inmate's faces etc etc. He says it is a jungle in there and you have to resort to dirty tricks to overpower violent inmates who have nothing to lose and maiming an officer carries kudos for that community. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I doubt that it will shock me or change my opinion of what goes on and what you have to do to survive. The business at the mental home with bullying/abuse to vulnerable mental patients was a disgrace, but we are talking about a different environment here with young thugs intent on causing mayhem to property and people that need keeping in check. A softly softly approach would be useless and totally ineffective if you want to control their violent behaviour. A hard line physically together with counselling on anger management issues is what is required here. Edited by Hoof Hearted (15 Jan 2016 10.25am) What a load of bollocks. I've actually worked in the Service (prior to leaving it to teach). The ONLY way to keep order in an adult nick more secure than an Open is to run the wings with the "consent" of the prisoners. Staffing levels are so low that any sort of "hard line" physical approach will only lead to assaults on staff and smashing up. The staff give some leeway to the leading players on the wings, who do a bit of in-house policing themselves to keep things sweet. The rough stuff gets saved for the Seg Unit and three man team removals to said Seg Unit. I gave an account of what I heard from my niece's husband - a veteran of 20 years service in Wandsworth. So not bollocks. My "advice" related to the G4S problem at a YOI and not an adult nick. I already conceded that my screw relative was thankful that he was not in the firing line any more at Wandsworth. The point I was trying to make was that life in prison isn't all tea and scones - any footage showing prison officers taking a hard line with inmates is par for the course as they quickly need to subdue violence before it escalates. I can quite imagine that in the adult prisons some "deals" are done with those prisoners considered topdogs to keep a lid on the place. Fair enough Hoof - in hindsight I went in there a bit strong.
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