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sydtheeagle England 20 Jul 15 10.17am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote puliscap at 03 Jul 2015 7.07pm
Pointless thread, I expect most of the other Premiership teams would be interested on taking him on loan. Silly season in full flow. Not pointless, and it's why Jose Mourinho is such a great manager. He's intelligent and open-minded enough to put long-term gain before short-term paranoia, something very rare in modern managers and speaks to his self-confidence. While the likes of Pellegrini simply hoard players and leave them to rot in the reserves (Jack Rodwell, anyone?), Mourinho is sensible enough to realise that a very young player will be more use to him in the long-term with a year of real Premiership experience under his belt. He has Terry and Cahill and likely has some experienced cover too, perhaps not as good as Zouma but still, the benefits of Zouma playing every week will be a huge advantage to Chelsea in years to come. Because Mourinho is one manager who doesn't worry about his job security today, he allows himself to think like that and plan properly for tomorrow. Furthermore, in a loan signing it's not a case of who's the biggest club to express an interest; it's where do Chelsea want him to go? If Mourinho decides he wants to keep him in London, if he thinks the Palace style is something Zouma can learn from, if he trusts Pardew to manage his protege correctly, then there's no reason it's not possible. Given Jose's often expressed fondness for Palace, why would this be out of the realms? Loans of players like Zouma boil down to the best environment for them to develop, not the biggest club they can go to. The bottom line is that this rumour hasn't gone away for a month now. Yes, I agree it seems unlikely but I don't think it's flat out stupid. Nothing will happen until Chelsea get back from America as I suspect Jose will want to give Zouma a full pre-season but I do think it's a slim possibility. I also think it would be our most impressive signing in a very long time, if it did come off.
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pstrutt Busselton, WA 20 Jul 15 10.42am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose I read one report on Chelsea-Mad.co.uk which made me believe that it was boolocks. It said that with the dip in form of Gary Cahill Bouma got his chance, but now that Cahill has got back to his best Bouma could go out on loan. Would be an excellent loan.
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Mikep1981 Sutton 20 Jul 15 11.02am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose think this will depend on if they sign Stones from Everton
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Fazil Bawlty 20 Jul 15 11.26am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Zouma's better than Stones but i'm not complaining. Him and Dann would be astonishing.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 20 Jul 15 11.47am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote Ian J at 02 Jul 2015 3.57pm
I think that if we take a 20 year old centre back on loan it will make local youngsters think twice about signing for our academy and more and more of our existing academy players will think about doing an Egbo
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Indefatigable South London 20 Jul 15 11.57am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Jul 2015 10.17am
Quote puliscap at 03 Jul 2015 7.07pm
Pointless thread, I expect most of the other Premiership teams would be interested on taking him on loan. Silly season in full flow. Not pointless, and it's why Jose Mourinho is such a great manager. He's intelligent and open-minded enough to put long-term gain before short-term paranoia, something very rare in modern managers and speaks to his self-confidence. While the likes of Pellegrini simply hoard players and leave them to rot in the reserves (Jack Rodwell, anyone?), Mourinho is sensible enough to realise that a very young player will be more use to him in the long-term with a year of real Premiership experience under his belt. He has Terry and Cahill and likely has some experienced cover too, perhaps not as good as Zouma but still, the benefits of Zouma playing every week will be a huge advantage to Chelsea in years to come. Because Mourinho is one manager who doesn't worry about his job security today, he allows himself to think like that and plan properly for tomorrow. Furthermore, in a loan signing it's not a case of who's the biggest club to express an interest; it's where do Chelsea want him to go? If Mourinho decides he wants to keep him in London, if he thinks the Palace style is something Zouma can learn from, if he trusts Pardew to manage his protege correctly, then there's no reason it's not possible. Given Jose's often expressed fondness for Palace, why would this be out of the realms? Loans of players like Zouma boil down to the best environment for them to develop, not the biggest club they can go to. The bottom line is that this rumour hasn't gone away for a month now. Yes, I agree it seems unlikely but I don't think it's flat out stupid. Nothing will happen until Chelsea get back from America as I suspect Jose will want to give Zouma a full pre-season but I do think it's a slim possibility. I also think it would be our most impressive signing in a very long time, if it did come off. Also Mourinho will want him to get regular experience playing to noisy crowds for when Chelsea go away in the Champions League I think the London connection is important as Mourinho/his representatives won't have to travel to watch him. But really Chelsea aren't going to want him going to any of their more immediate rivals such as Arsenal or Tottenham and being placed in the Watford could be seen as too much pressure. That would leave us and West Ham and he won't get as many starts at West Ham as their Defence is stronger.
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Indefatigable South London 20 Jul 15 11.59am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose I can't help thinking of this guy though every time I see/hear his name mentioned. Attachment: 41f8a1a2900c19d1ed310dc03966fd53.288x361x1.jpg (24.13Kb)
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Petereagle Brockley 20 Jul 15 12.01pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Jul 2015 10.17am
Quote puliscap at 03 Jul 2015 7.07pm
Pointless thread, I expect most of the other Premiership teams would be interested on taking him on loan. Silly season in full flow. Not pointless, and it's why Jose Mourinho is such a great manager. He's intelligent and open-minded enough to put long-term gain before short-term paranoia, something very rare in modern managers and speaks to his self-confidence. While the likes of Pellegrini simply hoard players and leave them to rot in the reserves (Jack Rodwell, anyone?), Mourinho is sensible enough to realise that a very young player will be more use to him in the long-term with a year of real Premiership experience under his belt. He has Terry and Cahill and likely has some experienced cover too, perhaps not as good as Zouma but still, the benefits of Zouma playing every week will be a huge advantage to Chelsea in years to come. Because Mourinho is one manager who doesn't worry about his job security today, he allows himself to think like that and plan properly for tomorrow. Furthermore, in a loan signing it's not a case of who's the biggest club to express an interest; it's where do Chelsea want him to go? If Mourinho decides he wants to keep him in London, if he thinks the Palace style is something Zouma can learn from, if he trusts Pardew to manage his protege correctly, then there's no reason it's not possible. Given Jose's often expressed fondness for Palace, why would this be out of the realms? Loans of players like Zouma boil down to the best environment for them to develop, not the biggest club they can go to. The bottom line is that this rumour hasn't gone away for a month now. Yes, I agree it seems unlikely but I don't think it's flat out stupid. Nothing will happen until Chelsea get back from America as I suspect Jose will want to give Zouma a full pre-season but I do think it's a slim possibility. I also think it would be our most impressive signing in a very long time, if it did come off. What a good post. Only thing to add is that CP is a mid-table club, so not in any sense a direct rival to Chelsea. I dont think he'll be going to Arsenal!
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coulsdoneagle London 20 Jul 15 12.01pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote Indefatigable at 20 Jul 2015 11.57am
Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Jul 2015 10.17am
Quote puliscap at 03 Jul 2015 7.07pm
Pointless thread, I expect most of the other Premiership teams would be interested on taking him on loan. Silly season in full flow. Not pointless, and it's why Jose Mourinho is such a great manager. He's intelligent and open-minded enough to put long-term gain before short-term paranoia, something very rare in modern managers and speaks to his self-confidence. While the likes of Pellegrini simply hoard players and leave them to rot in the reserves (Jack Rodwell, anyone?), Mourinho is sensible enough to realise that a very young player will be more use to him in the long-term with a year of real Premiership experience under his belt. He has Terry and Cahill and likely has some experienced cover too, perhaps not as good as Zouma but still, the benefits of Zouma playing every week will be a huge advantage to Chelsea in years to come. Because Mourinho is one manager who doesn't worry about his job security today, he allows himself to think like that and plan properly for tomorrow. Furthermore, in a loan signing it's not a case of who's the biggest club to express an interest; it's where do Chelsea want him to go? If Mourinho decides he wants to keep him in London, if he thinks the Palace style is something Zouma can learn from, if he trusts Pardew to manage his protege correctly, then there's no reason it's not possible. Given Jose's often expressed fondness for Palace, why would this be out of the realms? Loans of players like Zouma boil down to the best environment for them to develop, not the biggest club they can go to. The bottom line is that this rumour hasn't gone away for a month now. Yes, I agree it seems unlikely but I don't think it's flat out stupid. Nothing will happen until Chelsea get back from America as I suspect Jose will want to give Zouma a full pre-season but I do think it's a slim possibility. I also think it would be our most impressive signing in a very long time, if it did come off. Also Mourinho will want him to get regular experience playing to noisy crowds for when Chelsea go away in the Champions League I think the London connection is important as Mourinho/his representatives won't have to travel to watch him. But really Chelsea aren't going to want him going to any of their more immediate rivals such as Arsenal or Tottenham and being placed in the Watford could be seen as too much pressure. That would leave us and West Ham and he won't get as many starts at West Ham as their Defence is stronger. This rumour hasn't had any traction ever. It's just heresay so this is boll0cks
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jul 15 12.02pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote Indefatigable at 20 Jul 2015 11.59am
I can't help thinking of this guy though every time I see/hear his name mentioned. .........and the leader of The ANC springs to mind when someone mentions his name..
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 20 Jul 15 7.41pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote Ian J at 02 Jul 2015 3.57pm
I think that if we take a 20 year old centre back on loan it will make local youngsters think twice about signing for our academy and more and more of our existing academy players will think about doing an Egbo
It would be different if we had signed Jimmy mcnoone from Stoke, I could see your point then.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 20 Jul 15 7.43pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Kurt Zouma (loan hearsay)' by Moose Quote Ian J at 02 Jul 2015 3.57pm
I think that if we take a 20 year old centre back on loan it will make local youngsters think twice about signing for our academy and more and more of our existing academy players will think about doing an Egbo
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