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7@burnley79 Battersea 27 May 15 2.07am
Quote PalazioVecchio at 25 May 2015 8.56pm people who work on London underground will only leave if they win the lottery. Every other job is a step down from their cushy overpaid number. They have won the lottery on a 30 hr week 7 weeks paid holiday and 40 grand plus.
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Quote PalazioVecchio at 25 May 2015 8.56pm

people who work on London underground will only leave if they win the lottery. Every other job is a step down from their cushy overpaid number.

They have won the lottery on a 30 hr week 7 weeks paid holiday and 40 grand plus.

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Mr Palaceman 27 May 15 5.39am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 26 May 2015 11.32pm Quote Mr Palaceman at 26 May 2015 11.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 26 May 2015 5.53pm Quote Mr Palaceman at 26 May 2015 5.44pm Likewise, no one forces anyone to join the armed forces. To a man, every person I know who had signed up has done so because they thought of it as a great career despite the pay. In fact pay had nothing to do with it. For me this thread highlights a key problem in our society today. Instead of a nation we have become a divided people, not just by race or religion or rich and poor as its always been but now even by job. Teachers do one of the most important jobs you can do in this country. What is better than teaching someone to do better or be better than they are. At least that's what is supposed to happen. And as for our armed forces, they don't get paid enough but more importantly, they get sent around the world to do the biding of quite frankly piss poor politicians, to get shot at by people who never want them there, whether they a sent to help or not. Then when they get home, they are forgotten by those that sent them. Teachers, soldiers, firemen, police officers, nurses, none of them are exactly living the dream are they. I can't knock any of them as they all do what a lot wouldn't. Depends what you do, its possible to earn a very good living in all of those careers. Its hard work mind, and can be risky. All of them, long term have fairly good prospects for high earning salaries, and quite extensive training budgets - And in four of them, the entry level qualification is very low and training provision very good. Forces pay isn't great but the training and prospects long term historically have been very good (provided you don't get killed or horribly maimed). You make a good point but as you say it's hard work and in my book hard work should mean you get a good wage. Also, you have to put in the years, which needs a high level of dedication and commitment. I can't knock any of those professions. Fortunately, for me at least, that isn't true. I've not done any real hard proper work in a long time now. A few occasional late nights, one or two tight deadlines, but in my experience, generally the harder the work, the less the job actually pays. I can't argue with that. "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 26 May 2015 11.32pm

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Quote Mr Palaceman at 26 May 2015 5.44pm

Likewise, no one forces anyone to join the armed forces. To a man, every person I know who had signed up has done so because they thought of it as a great career despite the pay. In fact pay had nothing to do with it.

For me this thread highlights a key problem in our society today. Instead of a nation we have become a divided people, not just by race or religion or rich and poor as its always been but now even by job.

Teachers do one of the most important jobs you can do in this country. What is better than teaching someone to do better or be better than they are. At least that's what is supposed to happen.

And as for our armed forces, they don't get paid enough but more importantly, they get sent around the world to do the biding of quite frankly piss poor politicians, to get shot at by people who never want them there, whether they a sent to help or not. Then when they get home, they are forgotten by those that sent them.

Teachers, soldiers, firemen, police officers, nurses, none of them are exactly living the dream are they.

I can't knock any of them as they all do what a lot wouldn't.

Depends what you do, its possible to earn a very good living in all of those careers. Its hard work mind, and can be risky.

All of them, long term have fairly good prospects for high earning salaries, and quite extensive training budgets - And in four of them, the entry level qualification is very low and training provision very good.

Forces pay isn't great but the training and prospects long term historically have been very good (provided you don't get killed or horribly maimed).

You make a good point but as you say it's hard work and in my book hard work should mean you get a good wage.

Also, you have to put in the years, which needs a high level of dedication and commitment.

I can't knock any of those professions.

Fortunately, for me at least, that isn't true. I've not done any real hard proper work in a long time now. A few occasional late nights, one or two tight deadlines, but in my experience, generally the harder the work, the less the job actually pays.

I can't argue with that.

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 27 May 15 8.32am
Quote DanH at 26 May 2015 3.01pm Quote dannyh at 26 May 2015 2.06pm Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils I'm calling bullsh1t on that one. [Link] You will note the title of the DoE web page begins competitive salary and great benefits, not a mention of a mouse, Mickey or otherwise. Secondly leave and get a better job if there is one ? No one is forcing her to be teacher and have twelvty million paid holidays a year plus a nice salary. Another food for thought, when your buddies in the teaching profession go on strike, do they stop to think about the cost of childcare for working parents, or those that lose a days pay for having to stay at home. I’m guessing the answer is DILLIGAF. Finally the basic salary of a qualified teacher is according the link £36000 P.A. just as a comparison, how would you like to spend 6 months in a desert getting shot at, constantly going down with Diarrhoea and vomiting due to the sh1thole your working in. Having no time off, working from 0600 until midnight, getting s* food (when you can eat) and the only contact with friends and family or loved ones is via a dodgy internet connection or sat phone, and all for the princley sum of £21,000 P.A. Because that’s what a Pte soldier in the British Army is paid, so next time your bleating about £36000 a year for sitting in a cushy school office think about it for a while, it’s not so bad is it ? Sorry Hoof just seen your link same as mine, but it makes my piss boil when teachers whinge about working conditions and stuff. Edited by dannyh (26 May 2015 2.08pm) Should maybe pass on your own advice mate. Oh really ? When was the last time you saw the Army on strike ? You might have however, seen them filling in for just about every other public service whinge bag that has gone on strike. But do we whinge about it ? No its what we signed up for, the only time I bring it up is normally when someone like say, ohh I don’t know, when someone who sits in a nice safe classroom out of the wind, rain, sandstorms, heat, cold and what’s the other slightly hazardous working condition ,,, oh yes,, bullets flying around at amazing speed and accuracy, starts bloody whinging about having to work a few long hours, and being mocked by a few spotty turds in a classroom. I am soldier, I now what I got myself into and I love it, the pluses easily out way the negatives. I just think sometimes people need to see life on the other side of the street to realise how lucky they are, I know teachers have to spend a lot of time learning and getting degrees and what not, but they knew the working conditions and what the job entailed (or should have, unless they are bloody stupid) so why moan about it and start f*ing other peoples days and finances about just because you reckon you are worth more than you signed up to. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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Quote DanH at 26 May 2015 3.01pm

Quote dannyh at 26 May 2015 2.06pm

Quote hookoffthejab at 25 May 2015 9.37pm

My wife has been a teacher for 15 years. I also know a lot of teachers socially. A full time teacher is working probably in excess of 50 hours per week for a Mickey Mouse salary. The issue is not really how many teachers may or may not be leaving but how many are off with stress. In my experience teachers don't actually moan that much but they have more reason to complain than bankers bleating about bonus caps. If teachers go on strike I'll be on the picket line with them and not just for my wife's sake but also the sake if her pupils

I'm calling bullsh1t on that one.

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You will note the title of the DoE web page begins competitive salary and great benefits, not a mention of a mouse, Mickey or otherwise.

Secondly leave and get a better job if there is one ? No one is forcing her to be teacher and have twelvty million paid holidays a year plus a nice salary.

Another food for thought, when your buddies in the teaching profession go on strike, do they stop to think about the cost of childcare for working parents, or those that lose a days pay for having to stay at home. I’m guessing the answer is DILLIGAF.

Finally the basic salary of a qualified teacher is according the link £36000 P.A. just as a comparison, how would you like to spend 6 months in a desert getting shot at, constantly going down with Diarrhoea and vomiting due to the sh1thole your working in. Having no time off, working from 0600 until midnight, getting s*** food (when you can eat) and the only contact with friends and family or loved ones is via a dodgy internet connection or sat phone, and all for the princley sum of £21,000 P.A.

Because that’s what a Pte soldier in the British Army is paid, so next time your bleating about £36000 a year for sitting in a cushy school office think about it for a while, it’s not so bad is it ?

Sorry Hoof just seen your link same as mine, but it makes my piss boil when teachers whinge about working conditions and stuff.

Edited by dannyh (26 May 2015 2.08pm)

Should maybe pass on your own advice mate.

Oh really ?

When was the last time you saw the Army on strike ?

You might have however, seen them filling in for just about every other public service whinge bag that has gone on strike.

But do we whinge about it ? No its what we signed up for, the only time I bring it up is normally when someone like say, ohh I don’t know, when someone who sits in a nice safe classroom out of the wind, rain, sandstorms, heat, cold and what’s the other slightly hazardous working condition ,,, oh yes,, bullets flying around at amazing speed and accuracy, starts bloody whinging about having to work a few long hours, and being mocked by a few spotty turds in a classroom.

I am soldier, I now what I got myself into and I love it, the pluses easily out way the negatives.

I just think sometimes people need to see life on the other side of the street to realise how lucky they are, I know teachers have to spend a lot of time learning and getting degrees and what not, but they knew the working conditions and what the job entailed (or should have, unless they are bloody stupid) so why moan about it and start f***ing other peoples days and finances about just because you reckon you are worth more than you signed up to.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Kingvagabond London 27 May 15 9.28am
I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way.

As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them.

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He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 27 May 15 10.19am
Quote Willo at 26 May 2015 5.51pm And going into a bar on holiday and hearing the words "Hello Miss" !!!! Edited by Willo (26 May 2015 5.52pm) You should try wearing something a little more manly. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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And going into a bar on holiday and hearing the words "Hello Miss" !!!!

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You should try wearing something a little more manly.

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derben 27 May 15 10.22am
Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. As a lot of teachers these days are left wing nut jobs, the kids might be better off if they went on strike more often.
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Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

As a lot of teachers these days are left wing nut jobs, the kids might be better off if they went on strike more often.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 27 May 15 11.14am
Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. Oh really, so who does it inconvenience then, MP's, heads of education, government ministers for education, or does it inconvenience normal Joe public who have no say or influence over their "terrible" working conditions. It's not them that have to fork out for Childcare fee's or miss days off work, I'm pretty sure not a single thought is given to working single parents. It's the same as any strike its the public that suffer not the paymasters or MP's who set the conditions and pay. Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault. By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

Oh really, so who does it inconvenience then, MP's, heads of education, government ministers for education, or does it inconvenience normal Joe public who have no say or influence over their "terrible" working conditions.

It's not them that have to fork out for Childcare fee's or miss days off work, I'm pretty sure not a single thought is given to working single parents.

It's the same as any strike its the public that suffer not the paymasters or MP's who set the conditions and pay.

Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault.

By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Kingvagabond London 27 May 15 11.50am
Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. Oh really, so who does it inconvenience then, MP's, heads of education, government ministers for education, or does it inconvenience normal Joe public who have no say or influence over their "terrible" working conditions. It's not them that have to fork out for Childcare fee's or miss days off work, I'm pretty sure not a single thought is given to working single parents. It's the same as any strike its the public that suffer not the paymasters or MP's who set the conditions and pay. Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault. By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours. I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny. I agree with you that strikes should be wholly coupled with fullscale protest marches against the houses of parliament which is why everytime my union goes on strike I go to the protest marches as I want my voice heard by fatcat MPs. I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes. Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues. Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault.

By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours.

I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny.

I agree with you that strikes should be wholly coupled with fullscale protest marches against the houses of parliament which is why everytime my union goes on strike I go to the protest marches as I want my voice heard by fatcat MPs.

I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes.

Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues.

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

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derben 27 May 15 12.05pm
Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 11.50am Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s*. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. Oh really, so who does it inconvenience then, MP's, heads of education, government ministers for education, or does it inconvenience normal Joe public who have no say or influence over their "terrible" working conditions. It's not them that have to fork out for Childcare fee's or miss days off work, I'm pretty sure not a single thought is given to working single parents. It's the same as any strike its the public that suffer not the paymasters or MP's who set the conditions and pay. Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault. By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours. I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny. I agree with you that strikes should be wholly coupled with fullscale protest marches against the houses of parliament which is why everytime my union goes on strike I go to the protest marches as I want my voice heard by fatcat MPs. I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes.** Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues. LOL. And you are allowed to 'teach' children. I do hope they don't pay you too much attention.
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Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 11.50am

Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault.

By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours.

I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny.

I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes.

Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues.

LOL. And you are allowed to 'teach' children. I do hope they don't pay you too much attention.

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Kingvagabond London 27 May 15 12.20pm
Quote derben at 27 May 2015 12.05pm Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 11.50am Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s*. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. Oh really, so who does it inconvenience then, MP's, heads of education, government ministers for education, or does it inconvenience normal Joe public who have no say or influence over their "terrible" working conditions. It's not them that have to fork out for Childcare fee's or miss days off work, I'm pretty sure not a single thought is given to working single parents. It's the same as any strike its the public that suffer not the paymasters or MP's who set the conditions and pay. Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault. By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours. I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny. I agree with you that strikes should be wholly coupled with fullscale protest marches against the houses of parliament which is why everytime my union goes on strike I go to the protest marches as I want my voice heard by fatcat MPs. I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes.** Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues. LOL. And you are allowed to 'teach' children. I do hope they don't pay you too much attention. Not entirely certain why you feel that. I can only assume it's because you see me as a looney lefty but as I see you as a nutjob rightwing fascist cund I suspect we may be even Part of Holmesdale Radio: The Next Generation @KingvagabondHOL Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........
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London 27 May 15 12.20pm

Quote derben at 27 May 2015 12.05pm

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 11.50am

Quote dannyh at 27 May 2015 11.14am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

Striking is nothing short of blackmail enmass where the only sufferes are entirely without fault.

By the way I'm not an Eejit just because my opinion differs from yours.

I called you an eejit for failing to recognise that the point of a strike is to inconvenience others not because you have a different opinion Danny.

I also recognise that its parents most affected by marches. If the government wasn't targeting my pension, freezing pay conditions and increasing my working day (being that I'm only salaried 8.30 - 5.30 Monday - Friday and actually work closer to 7am-9pm everyday and at least 6 or 7 hours over the weekend) then I would have no reason to march. Sadly, you all decided to vote in the party who is attacking all public sector workers continuously thus expect more strikes.

Oh and don't kid yourself either that we are marching purely out of self interest. 90% of the marches/strikes organised during the last 5 years were about non pay-related issues.

LOL. And you are allowed to 'teach' children. I do hope they don't pay you too much attention.

Not entirely certain why you feel that. I can only assume it's because you see me as a looney lefty but as I see you as a nutjob rightwing fascist cund I suspect we may be even

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

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Stirlingsays 27 May 15 12.27pm
Quote derben at 27 May 2015 10.22am Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am I always have a laugh every time some eejit turns around and has a go at people striking because of the inconvenience it provides others. You get that that is the entire point of a strike right? What would be the point of striking if it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Strikers are showing that without them working everyone else's day goes to s***. Its showing their value and would be impossible to show their value any other way. As an industry do teachers strike too much? Yes personally I feel that if we striked less it would have more of an effect in winning over the general public. However, Nurses and Midwives strike once in a generation, full general public on their side, result: Tories ignore them. As a lot of teachers these days are left wing nut jobs, the kids might be better off if they went on strike more often. Yup, they are....But not all of them......I'm on the right about a few topics and I've been doing this job for about six years. Your politics shouldn't interfere with your teaching....If your students know who you vote for or prefer....It's not a good statement about how you do the job. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2015 12.30pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

27 May 15 12.27pm

Quote derben at 27 May 2015 10.22am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 May 2015 9.28am

As a lot of teachers these days are left wing nut jobs, the kids might be better off if they went on strike more often.

Yup, they are....But not all of them......I'm on the right about a few topics and I've been doing this job for about six years.

Your politics shouldn't interfere with your teaching....If your students know who you vote for or prefer....It's not a good statement about how you do the job.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2015 12.30pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 27 May 15 12.32pm
Personally I don't think any worker should feel any disquiet about withdrawing their labour. Not in a society where MPs create committees that then award them pay increases. Not one worker should feel the slightest disquiet. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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27 May 15 12.32pm

Personally I don't think any worker should feel any disquiet about withdrawing their labour.

Not in a society where MPs create committees that then award them pay increases.

Not one worker should feel the slightest disquiet.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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