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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 15 10.40am
Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 10.31am Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 10.25am Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 10.15am Quote Part Time James at 23 Apr 2015 4.56pm I need to go home and find my white cover version of Floodland because that had a really peculiar track listing on it. I can't find it on Discogs. It was white, with Japanese writing and a picture of Eldritch in a fencing outfit. I'm sure it didn't have the usual Floodland tracks on it (although I've never actually played it) and it had at least one cover on it, possibly Emma given that they put Emma on the remastered CD version.... Turned out to be this that I was thinking of that was pugged away at home: [Link] And it turns out I was talking b*llocks as neither Emma nor any other cover on it.... It does however have a demo version of 'Good Things' that was never released (but occasionally still played live). It doesn't have the full Floodland either, and I suspect its more of a bootleg than an actual release. Yeah, the sisters wiki (my new favourite website!) describes it as a bootleg. I have a decent selection of SoM vinyls actually, largely from trolling around Beanos in Croydon on a Saturday morning with money to burn! I used to have a huge collection of Sisters vinyl bootlegs, Banshee white discs, Gothic odds and ends, 12", EP's and EPs that I bought off a bloke for 200 quid (mostly so my mates could buy them), but sold them on when I moved (after my mates had cherry picked some absolute gems - including a bootleg of live Sisters gigs from 1981), for £455 on ebay. Not a bad return on the investment. A friend of mine, who is a massive sisters fan, got a copy of the 'Time to Cry EP' for a fiver. He was in tears. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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I need to go home and find my white cover version of Floodland because that had a really peculiar track listing on it. I can't find it on Discogs. It was white, with Japanese writing and a picture of Eldritch in a fencing outfit. I'm sure it didn't have the usual Floodland tracks on it (although I've never actually played it) and it had at least one cover on it, possibly Emma given that they put Emma on the remastered CD version....

Turned out to be this that I was thinking of that was pugged away at home:
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And it turns out I was talking b*llocks as neither Emma nor any other cover on it....

It does however have a demo version of 'Good Things' that was never released (but occasionally still played live). It doesn't have the full Floodland either, and I suspect its more of a bootleg than an actual release.

Yeah, the sisters wiki (my new favourite website!) describes it as a bootleg. I have a decent selection of SoM vinyls actually, largely from trolling around Beanos in Croydon on a Saturday morning with money to burn!

I used to have a huge collection of Sisters vinyl bootlegs, Banshee white discs, Gothic odds and ends, 12", EP's and EPs that I bought off a bloke for 200 quid (mostly so my mates could buy them), but sold them on when I moved (after my mates had cherry picked some absolute gems - including a bootleg of live Sisters gigs from 1981), for £455 on ebay. Not a bad return on the investment.

A friend of mine, who is a massive sisters fan, got a copy of the 'Time to Cry EP' for a fiver. He was in tears.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Part Time James 24 Apr 15 11.08am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 10.40am Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 10.31am Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Apr 2015 10.25am Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 10.15am Quote Part Time James at 23 Apr 2015 4.56pm I need to go home and find my white cover version of Floodland because that had a really peculiar track listing on it. I can't find it on Discogs. It was white, with Japanese writing and a picture of Eldritch in a fencing outfit. I'm sure it didn't have the usual Floodland tracks on it (although I've never actually played it) and it had at least one cover on it, possibly Emma given that they put Emma on the remastered CD version.... Turned out to be this that I was thinking of that was pugged away at home: [Link] And it turns out I was talking bllocks as neither Emma nor any other cover on it.... It does however have a demo version of 'Good Things' that was never released (but occasionally still played live). It doesn't have the full Floodland either, and I suspect its more of a bootleg than an actual release. Yeah, the sisters wiki (my new favourite website!) describes it as a bootleg. I have a decent selection of SoM vinyls actually, largely from trolling around Beanos in Croydon on a Saturday morning with money to burn! I used to have a huge collection of Sisters vinyl bootlegs, Banshee white discs, Gothic odds and ends, 12", EP's and EPs that I bought off a bloke for 200 quid (mostly so my mates could buy them), but sold them on when I moved (after my mates had cherry picked some absolute gems - including a bootleg of live Sisters gigs from 1981), for £455 on ebay. Not a bad return on the investment. A friend of mine, who is a massive sisters fan, got a copy of the 'Time to Cry EP' for a fiver. He was in tears. I'm going to have to go through my stuff. I vaguely remember buying a 12" single (possibly Dominion) in a box that had a mint condition pull out poster of the band. Paid about £3 in Beanos for it. Most my stuff (including the aforementioned) is probably worth pss all but I just enjoy owning them. I got my first ever SoM album from Beanos (Floodland on 12 inch vinyl). The bloke in Beanos tried to convince me Andrew Eldritch was just under 5 foot tall and had a high pitched voice that he altered with vocal altering techniques that were way ahead of their time. He told me that he stood on a box during live performance to reach the mic stand. Even though he was clearly talking b*llocks and I didn't believe him for one second, part of me felt a little surprised that he wasn't a midget when I saw them live.
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Turned out to be this that I was thinking of that was pugged away at home:
[Link]

And it turns out I was talking b*llocks as neither Emma nor any other cover on it....

A friend of mine, who is a massive sisters fan, got a copy of the 'Time to Cry EP' for a fiver. He was in tears.

I'm going to have to go through my stuff. I vaguely remember buying a 12" single (possibly Dominion) in a box that had a mint condition pull out poster of the band. Paid about £3 in Beanos for it. Most my stuff (including the aforementioned) is probably worth p*ss all but I just enjoy owning them.

I got my first ever SoM album from Beanos (Floodland on 12 inch vinyl). The bloke in Beanos tried to convince me Andrew Eldritch was just under 5 foot tall and had a high pitched voice that he altered with vocal altering techniques that were way ahead of their time. He told me that he stood on a box during live performance to reach the mic stand. Even though he was clearly talking b*llocks and I didn't believe him for one second, part of me felt a little surprised that he wasn't a midget when I saw them live.

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 15 11.21am
Ok lads - as someone who gave up on Andrew around 1988 and those uninspiring ToTPs appearances with Patricia Morrison could you point me in the direction of say five or six tracks after that date that you consider to be essential listening? Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Ok lads - as someone who gave up on Andrew around 1988 and those uninspiring ToTPs appearances with Patricia Morrison could you point me in the direction of say five or six tracks after that date that you consider to be essential listening?

Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence.

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Part Time James 24 Apr 15 11.52am
Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.21am Ok lads - as someone who gave up on Andrew around 1988 and those uninspiring ToTPs appearances with Patricia Morrison could you point me in the direction of say five or six tracks after that date that you consider to be essential listening? Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence. Well, if you're looking for SoM sounding like the SoM you know and love then you might find that these don't tick the box. But if you're willing to enjoy a slightly different sound then I would pick (post 1988): Ribbons Something Fast When You Don't See Me I Was Wrong The big songs off Vision Thing were "Vision Thing", "Detonation Boulevard", "Doctor Jeep" and "More" which are all great but a bit obvious and commercial (and long). I've essentially picked the four lesser known tracks from Vision Thing! Edited by Part Time James (24 Apr 2015 11.52am)
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Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.21am

Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence.

Well, if you're looking for SoM sounding like the SoM you know and love then you might find that these don't tick the box. But if you're willing to enjoy a slightly different sound then I would pick (post 1988):

Ribbons
Something Fast
When You Don't See Me
I Was Wrong

The big songs off Vision Thing were "Vision Thing", "Detonation Boulevard", "Doctor Jeep" and "More" which are all great but a bit obvious and commercial (and long). I've essentially picked the four lesser known tracks from Vision Thing!

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Part Time James 24 Apr 15 11.56am
Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count? If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck.
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Part Time James

24 Apr 15 11.56am

Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count?

If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck.

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thechaddyboy Peterborough 24 Apr 15 11.57am
Saw the thread & initially got a chubby thinking I'd missed the news flash that Eldritch had finally agreed to release new stuff....So many great cover versions but I gotta go for Gimme Shelter & Stop Dragging, now back to sleep Red & Blue since 73'
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Saw the thread & initially got a chubby thinking I'd missed the news flash that Eldritch had finally agreed to release new stuff....So many great cover versions but I gotta go for Gimme Shelter & Stop Dragging, now back to sleep

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Part Time James 24 Apr 15 12.00pm
Quote thechaddyboy at 24 Apr 2015 11.57am Saw the thread & initially got a chubby thinking I'd missed the news flash that Eldritch had finally agreed to release new stuff....So many great cover versions but I gotta go for Gimme Shelter & Stop Dragging, now back to sleep I'm sure about 15 years ago they announced they were working on a new album and have never said they've stopped. Can't remember what it was called. I think it had "Summer" in the title... EDIT: Noticed the "Summer" was actually a song, not sure whether they intended to name the album after it or whether it was just the standalone song they were saying was in progress. They have finished the song but not sure if I've heard it. Edited by Part Time James (24 Apr 2015 12.12pm)
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I'm sure about 15 years ago they announced they were working on a new album and have never said they've stopped. Can't remember what it was called. I think it had "Summer" in the title...

EDIT: Noticed the "Summer" was actually a song, not sure whether they intended to name the album after it or whether it was just the standalone song they were saying was in progress. They have finished the song but not sure if I've heard it.

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 15 1.30pm
Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 11.56am Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count? If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck. Ta for the suggestions. 'Lucretia' is very good and does remind me of early Sisters'. Would have been brilliant live back then with all the guitars. Will have a listen tonight and report back. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 11.56am

Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count?

If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck.

Ta for the suggestions. 'Lucretia' is very good and does remind me of early Sisters'. Would have been brilliant live back then with all the guitars.

Will have a listen tonight and report back.

Big chest and massive boobs

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 15 2.21pm
Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.21am Ok lads - as someone who gave up on Andrew around 1988 and those uninspiring ToTPs appearances with Patricia Morrison could you point me in the direction of say five or six tracks after that date that you consider to be essential listening? Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence. Those ToTP appearances were quite funny, and maybe taken a bit to seriously by some. Just man up, and buy the Merciful Release Boxed Set of all three albums re-mastered and with a shed load of additional tracks. Floodland and Vision Thing are very different beasts to First and Last and Always, which is itself a very different creature to the EPs (collected on Some Girls Wander by Mistake). But if you want tracks. Driven Like the Snow Something Fast I was Wrong (esp relevant ). Flood I and II 1959 Neverland (extended). Detonation Boulevard Vision Thing Under the Gun (Alice 93 is on this, a great revisiting of a classic) You could be the one. Plus obviously Temple of Love 92 (which will in time become your preferred version, and has a version of Alice that's recorded in an actual studio). Its important I think, in revisiting the sisters to see how they moved from being a post-punk band to a Goth band to being a real band. Those old EPs stand on their own merits, as do the albums. I think a lot of people saw Floodland as being a sell out rather than a re-invention - Tracks like Driven Like the Snow are worthy spiritual inheritors to 9 While Nine. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 11.21am

Help me break out of my only 1981-85 instransigence.

Those ToTP appearances were quite funny, and maybe taken a bit to seriously by some.

Just man up, and buy the Merciful Release Boxed Set of all three albums re-mastered and with a shed load of additional tracks.

Floodland and Vision Thing are very different beasts to First and Last and Always, which is itself a very different creature to the EPs (collected on Some Girls Wander by Mistake).

But if you want tracks.

Driven Like the Snow
Something Fast
I was Wrong (esp relevant ).
Flood I and II
1959
Neverland (extended).
Detonation Boulevard
Vision Thing
Under the Gun (Alice 93 is on this, a great revisiting of a classic)
You could be the one.

Plus obviously Temple of Love 92 (which will in time become your preferred version, and has a version of Alice that's recorded in an actual studio).

Its important I think, in revisiting the sisters to see how they moved from being a post-punk band to a Goth band to being a real band.

Those old EPs stand on their own merits, as do the albums. I think a lot of people saw Floodland as being a sell out rather than a re-invention - Tracks like Driven Like the Snow are worthy spiritual inheritors to 9 While Nine.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 15 2.25pm
Quote Kermit8 at 24 Apr 2015 1.30pm Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 11.56am Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count? If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck. Ta for the suggestions. 'Lucretia' is very good and does remind me of early Sisters'. Would have been brilliant live back then with all the guitars. Will have a listen tonight and report back. They were recording on four tracks until quite late on (1985). Sisters live always have sounded more 'excess' than on recordings, usually because they've had the option of lead and rhythm guitar. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote Part Time James at 24 Apr 2015 11.56am

Technically Floodland is a 1987 album but a lot of the singles were 1988 so does that count?

If so, add Lucretia My Reflection to the list as well. Every time I hear that riff the hairs stand up on my neck.

Ta for the suggestions. 'Lucretia' is very good and does remind me of early Sisters'. Would have been brilliant live back then with all the guitars.

Will have a listen tonight and report back.

They were recording on four tracks until quite late on (1985). Sisters live always have sounded more 'excess' than on recordings, usually because they've had the option of lead and rhythm guitar.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Timmy the eagle Birmingham 27 Apr 15 12.48pm
Quote Part Time James at 23 Apr 2015 4.20pm Quote Seth at 23 Apr 2015 4.10pm Quote Part Time James at 23 Apr 2015 4.01pm Quote Seth at 23 Apr 2015 4.00pm I was at school with SoM guitarist Ben Gunn, aka Benjamin Matthews. I shared this information with kermit8 a while ago and he was very excited, being as he is a big SoM fan. I don't actually like their music but am contractually obliged to drop Ben's name into any conversation about Sisters of Mercy which I come across. [Link] That's pretty cool! That's what kerm thought, but as a non-fan, to me he'll always just be Ben Matthews my old school pal, rather than rock legend Ben Gunn, who I have no connection with. If you had said Tony James (Sisters of Mercy, Generation X, Sigue Sigue Sputnik) I'd have had to mop the floor under my desk. I saw Tony James a few years ago when he teamed up with Mick Jones on Carbon Silican.They put on an awesome show.They seem pretty inactive these days though?
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I was at school with SoM guitarist Ben Gunn, aka Benjamin Matthews. I shared this information with kermit8 a while ago and he was very excited, being as he is a big SoM fan.

I don't actually like their music but am contractually obliged to drop Ben's name into any conversation about Sisters of Mercy which I come across.

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That's pretty cool!

That's what kerm thought, but as a non-fan, to me he'll always just be Ben Matthews my old school pal, rather than rock legend Ben Gunn, who I have no connection with.

If you had said Tony James (Sisters of Mercy, Generation X, Sigue Sigue Sputnik) I'd have had to mop the floor under my desk.

I saw Tony James a few years ago when he teamed up with Mick Jones on Carbon Silican.They put on an awesome show.They seem pretty inactive these days though?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Apr 15 12.59pm
Patricia Morrison is married to the lead singer of the Damned, and is an occasional band member these days. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Patricia Morrison is married to the lead singer of the Damned, and is an occasional band member these days.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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