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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Dec 14 2.49pm

So glad that we can rely on employers and their sense of human decency to provide for people, its a wonder that Unions were ever needed in the first place.

Its not as if they were needed.....

 


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Hoof Hearted 01 Dec 14 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

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Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

 

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ghosteagle Flag 01 Dec 14 4.00pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 10.36am

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

But if you were self-employed then your original post was irrelevant to the subject of Unions. So, you are still talking poppycock and nonsense.


 

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Hoof Hearted 01 Dec 14 4.06pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 10.36am

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

But if you were self-employed then your original post was irrelevant to the subject of Unions. So, you are still talking poppycock and nonsense.



You need to stop being rude to other posters with your petty insults mate.

By all means present your arguments, but leave the childish elements out....... you wouldn't do it in a normal conversation.

 

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ghosteagle Flag 01 Dec 14 4.11pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 4.06pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 10.36am

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

But if you were self-employed then your original post was irrelevant to the subject of Unions. So, you are still talking poppycock and nonsense.



You need to stop being rude to other posters with your petty insults mate.

By all means present your arguments, but leave the childish elements out....... you wouldn't do it in a normal conversation.

Not an insult in sight. Merely pointing out that your argument makes no sense and is therefore irrelevant poppycock which you have tried to shoehorn into an argument regardless of its relevance. Try harder.


 

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Hoof Hearted 01 Dec 14 4.15pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 4.06pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 10.36am

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

But if you were self-employed then your original post was irrelevant to the subject of Unions. So, you are still talking poppycock and nonsense.



You need to stop being rude to other posters with your petty insults mate.

By all means present your arguments, but leave the childish elements out....... you wouldn't do it in a normal conversation.

Not an insult in sight. Merely pointing out that your argument makes no sense and is therefore irrelevant poppycock which you have tried to shoehorn into an argument regardless of its relevance. Try harder.



Clearly you need a lesson in manners then. I'll discontinue trying to debate on an adult level with you and leave you to your ignorance.

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 4.15pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 4.06pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 4.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 3.57pm

Quote ghosteagle at 01 Dec 2014 2.16pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Dec 2014 10.36am

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


I managed my whole working life in finance without the help of a Union and retired early at 50 financially secure, but not as rich as some Union bosses who live in big mansions secured by union dues.

Your right Seth, I was in the wrong game mate!


Poppycock. Any employment rights you enjoy are because of the unions, even if you have never been a member. Don't be fooling yourself


Balderdash..... I was self employed!

I don't make a habit of fooling myself thank you.

But if you were self-employed then your original post was irrelevant to the subject of Unions. So, you are still talking poppycock and nonsense.



You need to stop being rude to other posters with your petty insults mate.

By all means present your arguments, but leave the childish elements out....... you wouldn't do it in a normal conversation.

Not an insult in sight. Merely pointing out that your argument makes no sense and is therefore irrelevant poppycock which you have tried to shoehorn into an argument regardless of its relevance. Try harder.



Clearly you need a lesson in manners then. I'll discontinue trying to debate on an adult level with you and leave you to your ignorance.

Run away home little boy

 

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ghosteagle cut out the insults otherwise you'll end up with a warning

 


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Quote Guntrisoft at 01 Dec 2014 4.21pm

ghosteagle cut out the insults otherwise you'll end up with a warning

Which insults would those be? After looking back i can only guess that the term 'poppycock' is what you refer to as i have at no time uttered any personal insults. I will now stop using the word poppycock and instead use the word bolderdash as used by my friend Hoof Hearted.

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 01 Dec 14 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


Done. Can I say what a fecking want about them now, without having the "look what good they do" line thrown back at me?

Last time I checked I was not in; the ruling elite, spin doctoring, nor the press.

 


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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 01 Dec 14 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Quote Stuk at 01 Dec 2014 5.35pm

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


Done. Can I say what a fecking want about them now, without having the "look what good they do" line thrown back at me?

Last time I checked I was not in; the ruling elite, spin doctoring, nor the press.

You can say what you fecking like about them and I can respond with what I fecking like about them too, within the rules of the site of course.

I wasn't suggesting you were one of those things, as I'm sure you're aware. I would put you in the category of "working people being turned against other working people to further the interests of the ruling elite, otherwise known as divide and rule".

 


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Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 6.31pm

Quote Stuk at 01 Dec 2014 5.35pm

Quote Seth at 01 Dec 2014 1.17am

Anyone who disagrees with unions' rights to fight for their members (as is their role) should immediately give up the working rights they enjoy as a result of union action (paid holidays, sick pay, maternity pay etc).

Maybe then they might realise the unions are a force for good and it's only the ruling elite and their spin doctors in the press who seek to turn working people against each other.


Done. Can I say what a fecking want about them now, without having the "look what good they do" line thrown back at me?

Last time I checked I was not in; the ruling elite, spin doctoring, nor the press.

You can say what you fecking like about them and I can respond with what I fecking like about them too, within the rules of the site of course.

I wasn't suggesting you were one of those things, as I'm sure you're aware. I would put you in the category of "working people being turned against other working people to further the interests of the ruling elite, otherwise known as divide and rule".

So, using the same logic, are you going to give up all the productts manufactured by those engaged in consumer capaitalism?

I think not.

 


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