Let's have a bit of pre-season Europe, perhaps Sweden or Finland, went to see palace in Sweden a few seasons back, brilliant, that will do. For me.

Agreed let's walk before we try to run.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

When did Hull ever play in Europe, their only chance this season is if they lose to Arsenal, and the Arsenal qualify automatically, then they will qualify.

Only Stoke "got aweay with it" and possibly Newcastle.

I would love us to qualify but it has a massive impact on teams with small squads. Wigan kicked on their season once out of it and Swansea havent really recovered.

One day yes, but we shouldn't want to do anythingthat could jopardise our position in the PL. As s*** as that sounds, we need to make the most of the golden goose before it all goes tits up.

It didn't do Fulham any harm, and how many of us would relish a European Final? Given how delighted we all were to lift the Zenith Cup, I'd venture quite a few.

I don't disagree with all the negatives, but all they tell me is you need a strategy to copy with the Europa League, not that you shouldn't enter it at all. Maybe the answer is a bigger squad, maybe it's player rotation, maybe it's relying on the kids more and taking your chances, particularly in the early rounds but with squads of 25 players and another 10 capable of playing (either not in the Premier League squad or top youngsters) we ought to be able to find 11 bodies that can play on a Thursday but are not required the following weekend.

Personally, I'd be delighted if we got into Europe. A step up is a step up and other teams' experience should give pointers as to how it's best managed.

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