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Hoof Hearted 13 Apr 14 6.50pm
Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.50am Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.47am Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.39am Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.29am Well Tim Pikey I think your point is similar to mine, but not enough to drop to abuse. I thought your point was that we were better after he came off, so we don't need him. Maybe I misread it. Also, I refrained from abuse, merely referring to how you may have been answered. Also...Living in Rochester, you probably don't know where Gypsy Hill is. Slightly closer to Crystal Palace than Strood. Sorry Tim, really only joking. In fact I was born round the corner to Gypsy Hill and went to Kingsdale (for my sins)! x I got sent home from Kingsdale infants for climbing on the roof. Yes, but you were also stripping off the lead you thieving pikey barsteward........LOL
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Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.50am

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Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.29am

Well Tim Pikey I think your point is similar to mine, but not enough to drop to abuse.

I thought your point was that we were better after he came off, so we don't need him. Maybe I misread it.

Also, I refrained from abuse, merely referring to how you may have been answered.

Also...Living in Rochester, you probably don't know where Gypsy Hill is. Slightly closer to Crystal Palace than Strood.

Sorry Tim, really only joking. In fact I was born round the corner to Gypsy Hill and went to Kingsdale (for my sins)! x

I got sent home from Kingsdale infants for climbing on the roof.

Yes, but you were also stripping off the lead you thieving pikey barsteward........LOL

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 13 Apr 14 9.22pm
Thought KG was one of the players from the promoted team who adapted better earlier in the season. However, forget all the stuff about systems, Ledley is a much better player, more versatile and has a goal in him. Also think Chamakh was quality in the advanced midfield position when he came on and that the eleven after the substitution is currently our strongest line up. Only thing I would question is whether Bolasie is a better player than Ince although understand that YB probably offers more when we don't have the ball (which is most of the time)
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Thought KG was one of the players from the promoted team who adapted better earlier in the season. However, forget all the stuff about systems, Ledley is a much better player, more versatile and has a goal in him.

Also think Chamakh was quality in the advanced midfield position when he came on and that the eleven after the substitution is currently our strongest line up.

Only thing I would question is whether Bolasie is a better player than Ince although understand that YB probably offers more when we don't have the ball (which is most of the time)

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 13 Apr 14 10.01pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Apr 2014 6.50pm Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.50am Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.47am Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.39am Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.29am Well Tim Pikey I think your point is similar to mine, but not enough to drop to abuse. I thought your point was that we were better after he came off, so we don't need him. Maybe I misread it. Also, I refrained from abuse, merely referring to how you may have been answered. Also...Living in Rochester, you probably don't know where Gypsy Hill is. Slightly closer to Crystal Palace than Strood. Sorry Tim, really only joking. In fact I was born round the corner to Gypsy Hill and went to Kingsdale (for my sins)! x I got sent home from Kingsdale infants for climbing on the roof. Yes, but you were also stripping off the lead you thieving pikey barsteward........LOL No. I was only an apprentice back then Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 13 Apr 2014 6.50pm

Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.50am

Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.47am

Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 13 Apr 2014 12.39am

Quote adrian b at 13 Apr 2014 12.29am

Well Tim Pikey I think your point is similar to mine, but not enough to drop to abuse.

I thought your point was that we were better after he came off, so we don't need him. Maybe I misread it.

Also, I refrained from abuse, merely referring to how you may have been answered.

Also...Living in Rochester, you probably don't know where Gypsy Hill is. Slightly closer to Crystal Palace than Strood.

Sorry Tim, really only joking. In fact I was born round the corner to Gypsy Hill and went to Kingsdale (for my sins)! x

I got sent home from Kingsdale infants for climbing on the roof.

Yes, but you were also stripping off the lead you thieving pikey barsteward........LOL

No. I was only an apprentice back then

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Apr 14 10.21pm
Quote Noz at 13 Apr 2014 6.21pm I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured. Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed. Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me. Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account? The Truth is out there. KG had signalled the bench that he was having a problem before then. He played on until it was safe to go down. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote Noz at 13 Apr 2014 6.21pm

I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured.

Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed.

Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me.

Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account?

The Truth is out there.

KG had signalled the bench that he was having a problem before then. He played on until it was safe to go down.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 14 Apr 14 2.33pm
I get the feeling there are some who really don't think it right to discuss and criticize players on this site. Or am I getting confused with the fan site of some boy band? Get real peeps, this is a site for mature men. Those who do not get it, there are sites for adoring fans of those clubs for the less discerning.
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I get the feeling there are some who really don't think it right to discuss and criticize players on this site. Or am I getting confused with the fan site of some boy band? Get real peeps, this is a site for mature men. Those who do not get it, there are sites for adoring fans of those clubs for the less discerning.

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Broadfield Eagle crawley 14 Apr 14 2.44pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 13 Apr 2014 4.51pm Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 4.30pm Quote joe_cpfc at 13 Apr 2014 12.00pm Quote tonypeers5 at 13 Apr 2014 8.47am Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus. I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better. Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday. We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him. Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team. Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over. So we only missed him for about 12 minutes
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Quote Sg Bilko at 13 Apr 2014 4.51pm

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Quote EagleLegend97 at 13 Apr 2014 12.28am

Wasn't having his best game today before he was subbed off, but there have been times when he's been fantastic. Plus Jedinak always seems to play a bit better when KG is next to him, which is always a bonus.

I thought Jedi was better when KG went off. One of his best games of late. Even his passing seemed to be a little better.

Yeah same.I think all this "Jedinak plays better with him in team" and "you only realise how good he is when he's not there" rubbish is all a bit of a myth now.Not slating him because he's actually looked a lot better the last few games but we definitely didn't miss him yesterday.

We didn't miss him yesterday, but if he hadn't been here for the whole season, I think we would have missed him. Look at it this way, we've all hailed Tony Pulis for what he's done here, and if he continues to pick KG, then I have total faith in him, as he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't doing something right. Also been reported that lots of clubs (some better than us) are interested in him.

Don't get me wrong, he's by no means our best player, and didn't play particularly well for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch yesterday, but personally i think he is an important player for the team.

Yes we did, he went off after 18mins, it took us until about the 30-35mins to settle down and reorganize ourselves, from then on we took over.

So we only missed him for about 12 minutes

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 14 Apr 14 2.54pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Apr 2014 10.21pm Quote Noz at 13 Apr 2014 6.21pm I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured. Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed. Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me. Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account? The Truth is out there. KG had signalled the bench that he was having a problem before then. He played on until it was safe to go down. I had spotted he was limping 2 or 3 minutes before he put his arm up to signal the bench, looked to me like an ankle injury.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Apr 2014 10.21pm

Quote Noz at 13 Apr 2014 6.21pm

I was watching the line during this incident. Chamakh was doing his final warm up and was called to the dugout, before there was any indication of KG being injured.

Alex Manos ran out and gestured to KG to go to the ground. Which he duly did. Then he was subbed.

Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, but this is what it looked like to me.

Tactical change, under the illusionary auspices of an injury? Or plain chaos theory on my account?

The Truth is out there.

KG had signalled the bench that he was having a problem before then. He played on until it was safe to go down.

I had spotted he was limping 2 or 3 minutes before he put his arm up to signal the bench, looked to me like an ankle injury.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Apr 14 3.05pm
Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm I get the feeling there are some who really don't think it right to discuss and criticize players on this site. Or am I getting confused with the fan site of some boy band? Get real peeps, this is a site for mature men. Those who do not get it, there are sites for adoring fans of those clubs for the less discerning. I think that calling a thread '' The truth about KG '' was where you started to go wrong. Then you made it worse with the above patronising statement. It's not '' the truth ''. It's your opinion. Some people will agree, some won't. Old, Ungifted and White
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Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm

I think that calling a thread '' The truth about KG '' was where you started to go wrong. Then you made it worse with the above patronising statement.

It's not '' the truth ''. It's your opinion. Some people will agree, some won't.

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EagleLegend97 London 14 Apr 14 3.09pm
Quote NEILLO at 14 Apr 2014 3.05pm Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm I get the feeling there are some who really don't think it right to discuss and criticize players on this site. Or am I getting confused with the fan site of some boy band? Get real peeps, this is a site for mature men. Those who do not get it, there are sites for adoring fans of those clubs for the less discerning. I think that calling a thread '' The truth about KG '' was where you started to go wrong. Then you made it worse with the above patronising statement. It's not '' the truth ''. It's your opinion. Some people will agree, some won't. Spot on. Edited by EagleLegend97 (14 Apr 2014 3.11pm) Edited by EagleLegend97 (14 Apr 2014 3.12pm)
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Quote NEILLO at 14 Apr 2014 3.05pm

Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm

I think that calling a thread '' The truth about KG '' was where you started to go wrong. Then you made it worse with the above patronising statement.

It's not '' the truth ''. It's your opinion. Some people will agree, some won't.

Spot on.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Apr 14 3.50pm
Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm I get the feeling there are some who really don't think it right to discuss and criticize players on this site. Or am I getting confused with the fan site of some boy band? Get real peeps, this is a site for mature men. Those who do not get it, there are sites for adoring fans of those clubs for the less discerning. KG is an important player for us defensively, and allows Jedi to get forward more, whilst forcing play wide into the channels (allowing the midfielder and full back to control the attack, without committing the centre back). Wins balls in the air, and links with short passes into midfield. He's calm, level headed and a true team player. Also allows for cover if the full back is out of position. Hardly exciting, never glamourous but his positioning and work rate is brilliant. His inability to hit a ball at target is worrying, especially given he used to be quite decent at that when he first came in. Sometimes I think he makes very good longer passes, but into areas where we should be, rather than are. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 2.33pm

KG is an important player for us defensively, and allows Jedi to get forward more, whilst forcing play wide into the channels (allowing the midfielder and full back to control the attack, without committing the centre back). Wins balls in the air, and links with short passes into midfield. He's calm, level headed and a true team player.

Also allows for cover if the full back is out of position.

Hardly exciting, never glamourous but his positioning and work rate is brilliant. His inability to hit a ball at target is worrying, especially given he used to be quite decent at that when he first came in.

Sometimes I think he makes very good longer passes, but into areas where we should be, rather than are.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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