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Kermit8 Hevon 01 Apr 14 9.35pm | |
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Quote mrmojorising at 01 Apr 2014 9.25pm
the one question that still hasn't been asked is why did the police felt
The previous years the police filtered the crowds 100metres from the turnstiles and checked tickets because it was a known bottleneck. In 1989 they didn't. People who arrived at 2.30 were still waiting to get in at 2.55 and by then they had two thousand others behind them. Edited by Kermit8 (01 Apr 2014 9.36pm)
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 01 Apr 14 9.42pm | |
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Quote mrmojorising at 01 Apr 2014 9.25pm
the one question that still hasn't been asked is why did the police felt
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Kermit8 Hevon 01 Apr 14 9.46pm | |
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Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 01 Apr 2014 9.42pm
Quote mrmojorising at 01 Apr 2014 9.25pm
the one question that still hasn't been asked is why did the police felt
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Bert the Head Epsom 01 Apr 14 10.15pm | |
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Quote paperhat at 01 Apr 2014 5.26pm
Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 5.22pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 01 Apr 2014 5.11pm
I am sorry but I couldn't care less if it happened to us hardly anyone wouldn't take any notice. Ill participate in the silence but I wont pander up to it anymore then that.
It could've been any team's fans, including us. And what about Heysel, Bradford et al? The only reason this is taking any importance is because its currently in the news. If anything at all, there should be a protest against sh1tty policing should there not? It is important because of the number of people who died and because the causes were initially covered up by the police who lied in their statements - The Sun's horrific reporting set the tone.
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Johnny D Beckenham 01 Apr 14 10.35pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 01 Apr 2014 9.35pm
Quote mrmojorising at 01 Apr 2014 9.25pm
the one question that still hasn't been asked is why did the police felt
The previous years the police filtered the crowds 100metres from the turnstiles and checked tickets because it was a known bottleneck. In 1989 they didn't. People who arrived at 2.30 were still waiting to get in at 2.55 and by then they had two thousand others behind them. Edited by Kermit8 (01 Apr 2014 9.36pm) The new inquest into the Hillsborough Disaster has just opened and could take a WHOLE YEAR to be heard. In my opinion, only the Jury who will sit through all of this evidence will be able to make an accurate and informed decision on exactly what happened that day, what went wrong and why (including deciding, if they can, who was at fault). One thing we all know that 96 football fans just like us tragically died and of course we should respect the silence, I'm sure we all will. People have mentioned other tragedies and I agree that they should not be forgotten or overshadowed. I don't feel a banner is necessary myself. It's not something specific to our club any more than any other club and as football fans I think adhering to the silence is an appropriate way to show our respect.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Apr 14 10.50pm | |
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Why do some of our fans feel the need to get a banner out whenever possible?
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Firegut Croydon 01 Apr 14 11.29pm | |
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Good call for any banner to protest against police cover ups - in theory, at least
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paperhat croydon 02 Apr 14 8.51am | |
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Quote Firegut at 01 Apr 2014 11.29pm
Good call for any banner to protest against police cover ups - in theory, at least
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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 02 Apr 14 10.09am | |
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Quote Jimenez at 01 Apr 2014 2.07pm
As long as we do one for the Bradford fans & one to commemorate the victims of Heysel as well, then I'm in. Agree - all such deaths are tragic - not just those that could possibly be blamed on poor crowd control by some
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Apr 14 10.28am | |
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What about floods, Tsunamis, plane crashes, coach crashes, boat sinkings, earthquakes, tornados, serial killers?
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 02 Apr 14 10.30am | |
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Quote Cucking Funt at 01 Apr 2014 8.17pm
Quote Seththe 01 Apr 2014 6.08pm
Quote paperhat at 01 Apr 2014 5.26pm
Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 5.22pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 01 Apr 2014 5.11pm
I am sorry but I couldn't care less if it happened to us hardly anyone wouldn't take any notice. Ill participate in the silence but I wont pander up to it anymore then that.
It could've been any team's fans, including us. And what about Heysel, Bradford et al? The only reason this is taking any importance is because its currently in the news. If anything at all, there should be a protest against sh1tty policing should there not?
It's "taking importance" as you put it because it's 25 years ago this month and the new inquest is beginning. As football fans we should support the Hillsborough campaigners because it could've been any of us and if it was us, I'd want other fans to support us. Agree the policing of the event should be looked at, which it will be during the course of the inquest. For EastEndPalace to say he "couldn't care less" that 96 people died at a football match is worrying for all fans, imo.
Is it because the Liverpudlian psyche seems to define itself through misery, 'hardship' and a victim culture? Is it coincidental that Liverpool has been described as 'The Self Pity Capital of Europe'? Why has Hillsborough leap-frogged other, equally dreadful, tragedies in the public imagination? I am fully prepared to observe the silence at the Villa game but surely a 7 minute delay to the kickoff is a bit OTT. I also dislike this attitude of 'observe it or you're a c*nt' which seems to be all too prevalent these days. It's got a little out of hand, in my view.
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oohahh Caterham 02 Apr 14 10.31am | |
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There were many 'pissed up scousers' as someone called them, pushing from the back and the gates were opened. But it was the innocent people at the front, who had already got in who were crushed.
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