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7@burnley79 Flag Battersea 01 Mar 14 1.02am Send a Private Message to 7@burnley79 Add 7@burnley79 as a friend

Quote Firegut at 28 Feb 2014 8.24pm

So if red is lucky and blue is unlucky, we are permanently f***ed


Thoroughly explains why we are a yoyo club though. Glad that was cleared up.

 

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Quote FinchleyEagle at 28 Feb 2014 1.55pm

Quote martin2412 at 28 Feb 2014 1.44pm

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 28 Feb 2014 9.51am

He really doesn't like Moody.


I was talking to someone at the game on Saturday who is friends with someone high up within Cardiff. I don't know how much truth there is in this, but apparently Tan is about to issue Moody a writ for alleged financial misdealings.
May be a load of cobblers. Just thought I'd share as this has come up.

Seems unlikely to me - as the owner he must have either delegated authority or approved it. Not sure where his case would come from.

Im sure the HF held up a banner to Cardiff this year or last year pretty much saying they had sold their soul or something like that (feel free to EFA) which they have.

We paid the price for doing that (twice) I have no sympathy for anyone else. They took the money and seemed to think the new owner would just simply spend lots of money without wanting to change his acquisition in any way at all. How incredibly unrealistic that is.

I think that Tan is suggesting that MacKay and Moody were operating outside their terms of reference but I don't suppose that we will ever know the truth unless he does carry out his threat and issue a writ whereupon all will be revealed in court.

I think that you have forgotten what state Cardiff were in before Tan took over as there were winding up petitions flying about and the club were just days away from extinction and if the fans were asked at the time whether they would accept a change of kit colour in return for Tan saving their club and injecting tens of millions of pounds into it they would have undoubtedly voted with a resounding yes please


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Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 28 Feb 2014 9.11pm

Employing Solskjaer was suicidal. Getting rid of Mackay and Moody would be understandable, if they didn't hire someone with no managerial experience in any league of note

I seem to recall that there were a number of people on this forum who wanted Solskjaer to take over here prior to Pulis being appointed


 

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Quote Ian J at 01 Mar 2014 6.58am

Quote TomThePalaceFanatic at 28 Feb 2014 9.11pm

Employing Solskjaer was suicidal. Getting rid of Mackay and Moody would be understandable, if they didn't hire someone with no managerial experience in any league of note

I seem to recall that there were a number of people on this forum who wanted Solskjaer to take over here prior to Pulis being appointed


Cough Cough no idea what you're talking about

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Feb 2014 1.06pm

Him and 'Ron El Jeremy' at Fulham seem to have inspired their own relegation problems.


Don't forget Ellis Short at Sunderland...

Good things come to those who wait. And yet it seems they also come to those who flail around wildly looking for the nearest handhold, regularly hurl the last six months of forward planning out of the window, and generally don't seem to be able to sit down for any period of time without jabbing themselves in the foot with the nearest sharp implement. For Sunderland, progress to Sunday's Capital One Cup final has involved not so much a cup run as a compelling kind of cup stampede, fraught with hierarchal change, a fast-paced turnover in playing staff and the continual clank-clank of gear-shift and about-turn.

Not that there is anything new in any of this. It is now four years since Ellis Short bought the club from the Drumaville Consortium, during which time Short's bafflingly incontinent administration has signed 42 players and sold 53, including 14 new signings from 10 different leagues in the past year alone. Four permanent managers have come and gone, along with three temporary ones, a disgruntled-looking Roy Keane, one fascism-related scandal, an improbable ginger-bearded director of football, and at least £200m of Short's own money in transfers and wages. From a distance the American private equity tycoon with a personal fortune of $3bn seems the most unlikely of accidental cup finalists, a man who has effectively blundered his way to Wembley in the past six months.

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Quote FinchleyEagle at 28 Feb 2014 1.55pm

Quote martin2412 at 28 Feb 2014 1.44pm

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 28 Feb 2014 9.51am

He really doesn't like Moody.


I was talking to someone at the game on Saturday who is friends with someone high up within Cardiff. I don't know how much truth there is in this, but apparently Tan is about to issue Moody a writ for alleged financial misdealings.
May be a load of cobblers. Just thought I'd share as this has come up.

We paid the price for doing that (twice) I have no sympathy for anyone else. They took the money and seemed to think the new owner would just simply spend lots of money without wanting to change his acquisition in any way at all. How incredibly unrealistic that is.

I don't get comments like this, people saying things like the fans deserve it because they accepted Tan initially. "They took the money and seemed to think the new owner would simply spend lots of money."

Who is "they"? Football fans have no influence over who buys their club they just have to accept it and put up with it, as we did with Goldberg, Jordan and now CPFC 2010. Fortunately we appear to have lucked out, but to suggest fans in some way deserve the horrid owner as they initially accepted them is rubbish. In your scenario "they" are the administrators who are a set of accountants whose job it is to find a buyer and maximise creditor returns.

I feel for Cardiff fans, rivals or not it would be s*** if someone did what Tan is doing at Cardiff to our club and there is very little we could do about it.

 

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Quote alaneagle1 at 01 Mar 2014 12.37am

Quote Mwncisee at 28 Feb 2014 9.07pm

Read the article ob the BBC site and had a read through the replies etc here. As a similar club to Cardiff, i.e one who went up last year and are trying to survive in the Premier this season it is very realistic and relevant that we do look at Cardiff and how they have gone about things, especially as we look at what is on the face of it two board who are poles apart (One lead by a foreign owner who has no vested heart or interest in the clubs traditions and one owned by a `group` of English business men who do have a place in their hearts for their club and its traditions.

Two thoughts sprung to my mind.

1. with the allegations of Moody overspending it is interesting that he now works in an environment which has actually been criticized over two transfer windows for being `over-cautious` in the transfer market with regards to funds. there is a general perception that we `overpent` on one player, Gayle 4.5 to 6.5 million. It is reported on the BBC site that the actual cost of Cornelius (Cardiff's equivalent to Gayle - Young potential unproven striker at top level striker) has actually 20 million in total!

2. Tan decided he could do what he wanted to re-brand the club, his club his decision, sod tradition or the fans. Palace did have the same thoughts, only last year (or was it the year before) the board said they wanted to change the club badge for re-branding and merchandise reasons. The 6 or so suggestions were vastly different from the traditional badge. But, and this is the key they looked to get the fans opinions, to be honest the responses were not favorable, for a variety of reasons but it was evident that the club listened to the wishes of the fans and our current badge is a `middle ground` between the clubs wishes and the fans (Actually more towards the fans wishes), the board probably wish the result was closer to their wishes but in my view they came out better as it proves they do listen...take note Mr Tan

Moody was not at Palace when we signed Dwight.


Er yes that was my point (all be it in a bit of a whaffly way) that Whilse many here were moaning that we had overspent on an unproven striker at prem level Cardiff did the same but the amounts are vastly different 4.5 to 20 mill. Moody may well have been responsible for that overspend but its interesting that he would chose to come to a club infamous in transfer windows for its care and prudence in trying to get value for money. Personally suggests to me Moody and Malcky are not as carefree with Cardiff's finances and Tan would have us believe.

 

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