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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 19 Feb 14 12.29pm | |
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Hoof Hearted 19 Feb 14 1.02pm | |
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I'mPalace Till I Die 19 Feb 14 1.46pm | |
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It is great to have an electric atmosphere and I for one do sing along at times and if I am away then I may jump up and down and stand all match. I actually sit in the Main Stand too so I don't jump up and down at home though. I think every fan should be valued and collectively we are great. I wouldn't want anyone to feel like they had to sing and make a racket but if they choose to then great. For the elderly who come to Palace, it must be nice for them to hear a good atmosphere and keep their spirit they had going. If new ppl come along to Palace, they might feel obliged/encouraged to get involved in certain parts of the ground. If I took my Nephew to the Main Stand it might have the opposite effect, just saying.
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9eagle 19 Feb 14 3.57pm | |
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Ok I think encourage might be a better word than mould.
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Palace15eagle London 19 Feb 14 6.26pm | |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Feb 2014 10.34am
Quote Palace15eagle at 19 Feb 2014 9.54am
Quote Mapletree at 18 Feb 2014 11.08pm
Quote Firegut at 18 Feb 2014 10.55pm
I don't get when people start saying stuff like "what right do you have to dictate what other fans do"
Not happy for thousands of Palace fans to stream out the gates 15 minutes before the end of the match etc Not saying people can't do what they choose, but why should I and others of similar mind have to be happy about the sort of things above? Then you've got the point of atmosphere in this thread. It's the same principle, don't think he's saying "every Palace fan should do what I say". He's just saying it's so much better when there's a quality atmosphere. The club is getting praised left right and centre for it so he's not alone in thinking that.
My point really was that i dont want to knock any existing supporters. But maybe the new ones should be viewed as welcome fresh blood. They will only ever have seen the support at its current intensity so should just think its normal to very actively get behind the team. Exactly right. The longer we can keep our atmosphere up to the current levels the better. Luckily the Main Stand folk are a minority of the Palace support. Another thing, I don't quite understand how someone who just turns up, goes to their seat and expect to be royally entertained is as valued a fan as someone who is jumping up and down and creating a racket, because surely the latter are putting more effort into the way they support their team?
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est1905 19 Feb 14 6.55pm | |
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Quote Palace15eagle at 19 Feb 2014 6.26pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Feb 2014 10.34am
Quote Palace15eagle at 19 Feb 2014 9.54am
Quote Mapletree at 18 Feb 2014 11.08pm
Quote Firegut at 18 Feb 2014 10.55pm
I don't get when people start saying stuff like "what right do you have to dictate what other fans do"
Not happy for thousands of Palace fans to stream out the gates 15 minutes before the end of the match etc Not saying people can't do what they choose, but why should I and others of similar mind have to be happy about the sort of things above? Then you've got the point of atmosphere in this thread. It's the same principle, don't think he's saying "every Palace fan should do what I say". He's just saying it's so much better when there's a quality atmosphere. The club is getting praised left right and centre for it so he's not alone in thinking that.
My point really was that i dont want to knock any existing supporters. But maybe the new ones should be viewed as welcome fresh blood. They will only ever have seen the support at its current intensity so should just think its normal to very actively get behind the team. Exactly right. The longer we can keep our atmosphere up to the current levels the better. Luckily the Main Stand folk are a minority of the Palace support. Another thing, I don't quite understand how someone who just turns up, goes to their seat and expect to be royally entertained is as valued a fan as someone who is jumping up and down and creating a racket, because surely the latter are putting more effort into the way they support their team?
We can all talk about which is the better supporter etc. The reality is nobody is. If you compare football supporters to customers of a business (in many peoples eyes that is exactly what they are) and say which customer would you prefer? The one that's been buying from you for a couple of years and raves about your product so much so that he/she has begun to encourage their friends to buy from you too. A very valuable customer you'd think and you'd be right but what about the loyal customer that does not make any kind of a fuss at all but buys from you every week, has done for 50 years and because of his/her actions their family have grown up loyal to your business and buy from you too. But lets say they also do not make a song and dance about your product, they just buy it.
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Palace15eagle London 19 Feb 14 9.52pm | |
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Quote est1905 at 19 Feb 2014 6.55pm
Quote Palace15eagle at 19 Feb 2014 6.26pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Feb 2014 10.34am
Quote Palace15eagle at 19 Feb 2014 9.54am
Quote Mapletree at 18 Feb 2014 11.08pm
Quote Firegut at 18 Feb 2014 10.55pm
I don't get when people start saying stuff like "what right do you have to dictate what other fans do"
Not happy for thousands of Palace fans to stream out the gates 15 minutes before the end of the match etc Not saying people can't do what they choose, but why should I and others of similar mind have to be happy about the sort of things above? Then you've got the point of atmosphere in this thread. It's the same principle, don't think he's saying "every Palace fan should do what I say". He's just saying it's so much better when there's a quality atmosphere. The club is getting praised left right and centre for it so he's not alone in thinking that.
My point really was that i dont want to knock any existing supporters. But maybe the new ones should be viewed as welcome fresh blood. They will only ever have seen the support at its current intensity so should just think its normal to very actively get behind the team. Exactly right. The longer we can keep our atmosphere up to the current levels the better. Luckily the Main Stand folk are a minority of the Palace support. Another thing, I don't quite understand how someone who just turns up, goes to their seat and expect to be royally entertained is as valued a fan as someone who is jumping up and down and creating a racket, because surely the latter are putting more effort into the way they support their team?
We can all talk about which is the better supporter etc. The reality is nobody is. If you compare football supporters to customers of a business (in many peoples eyes that is exactly what they are) and say which customer would you prefer? The one that's been buying from you for a couple of years and raves about your product so much so that he/she has begun to encourage their friends to buy from you too. A very valuable customer you'd think and you'd be right but what about the loyal customer that does not make any kind of a fuss at all but buys from you every week, has done for 50 years and because of his/her actions their family have grown up loyal to your business and buy from you too. But lets say they also do not make a song and dance about your product, they just buy it.
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Mapletree Croydon 19 Feb 14 10.42pm | |
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Quote Mapletree at 15 Feb 2014 2.03pm
There is a general view on HOL that new generation supporters won't fit in very well and won't add to the atmosphere. Thinking about that, the people that don't sing much - although they are improving - are primarily in the Main Stand. Most of those guys are long-standing supporters who just don't feel the need to sing. Hard to get them going and they feel more embarrassment about singing than about not singing. But the newbies are there to be moulded. Could it be that when they first arrive they will see the singing and assume they really should participate? And maybe many of them are coming because we have a reputation for atmosphere and will want to add to it.
I don't think it's correct to assume that as you get older you automatically don't want to sing but perhaps it is true that the most enthusiastic singers are not yet retired. My point, as above, was always don't knock the new supporters. Rather than all being plastics who will move on if we stop being successful, maybe instead they are on a journey to learn how to be outstanding supporters. They are learning in the best possible place. We just need to hold onto them for long enough so that, using my earlier word, they get moulded. And that won't be anybody actively moulding them, they will just have served their apprenticeship. Poor souls, once hooked there will be no turning back.....
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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 20 Feb 14 3.14pm | |
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