It's great to hear about a great atmosphere created by our fans only to be let down by a small minority. We as a collective need self regulate the minority who want to cause trouble and ruin our reputation.

This may mean approaching said minority on the spot as hard as it may be and tell them to pull their heads in. In some cases I accept that they may be drunk and don't give a shiv so it's not easy. It is easy to bring it to the attention on here after the fact and criticise (no offence to original poster) but we need to step up and ensure these types of incident don't occur in the first place.

Just my thoughts.

I don't often post but go to a lot of away games and am a ST holder at home.

Yesterdays game was a odd one, the atmosphere was very good but seemed to be a lot of drunk fans there all acting a bit silly during the game in block 20, I didnt see any trouble but left quickly at the end as had my 11yr old brother with me and thought there could be, so I met a mate who is an arsenal ST holder and walked away with him.

Before the game there was a large group dressed in black chanting and being marched over the bridge towards the clock tower end by the Police (I don't know if this was the HF or not) but I was just going through the search area and it kicked off with the police for a brief moment so there was trouble before hand which was very disappointing as there is usually none not even Brighton away last season. It has me debating whether or not to go to certain other away games this season especially west ham which is a shame. I think this unfortunately could be the new fans we are attracting and who buy tickets through the touts etc

Sad to hear that, hopefully you and your little brother wont be put off going to more games. I think the 4pm Sunday kick off time maybe made a difference with the extra time in the pubs before hand.

I doubt the group you saw kicking off with the police were the same lot as those at the station, unless the lads dressed all in black were 35-50 year olds as the OP witnessed?

I couldn't tell you to be honest just all seemed in black and dark clothing there were police and horses there and it was a good 25m from me so couldn't see faces hair colour. Also I am not saying because they were in black they were the HF, it would seem odd if it was as the section of crowd they were in was smaller than group that was marched I quite like the HF and the athmosphere they help generate and could not even of been them but we are starting to get a certain type of fan now that is worrying

It won't stop me going to most games but certainly will think about a few, I'm in my 20's so am not as worried for me but it's little brother I am careful of, even down to yesterday usually you can easily squeeze past people single file with him holding my coat etc but yesterday that was just a nightmare to. maybe your right the extra hour in the pubs and people thinking oh its arsenal lets start early etc etc plus its not a game you have to think about travel too hard like stoke etc and were a lot of faces I hadn't seen at games previously when usually you can recognise 60% of the people who go most away games