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Are the HOL/BBS architects of the club's 'unrest'?
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 wainesworld  west wickham 28 Jan 14 9.33am |
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Quote beagle at 27 Jan 2014 9.11pm
Are the HOL/BBS architects of the club's 'unrest'? I put the word 'unrest' in inverted commas as Pullis has come out to the press to say not only is he going nowhere, but the board are/have been doing a top job. Which is a strange coincidence give that both Palace boards have been a fury of speculation, whispers, information, mis-information and passionate debate on both subjects. Extraordinarily Palace are fairly unique in having two 'thriving' (and that aint the half of it) boards. And we all know the football press keeps a close eye on the two sites for 'stories' (A case in point is someone like The Adder editor who is a regular in terms posting links to his paper's latest Palace 'scoop'- and there's no way he aint checking out the gossip and arguments we post). The boards are a barometer and an easy newsfeed. So if Pullis, as he says, genuinely has no problem with the board and isnt off anywhere then are we the architects of the club becomes a 'backpage story'? Pullis is fending off questions. The board is. The players will have their fingers on every media pulse and wondering if there are 'issues' etc etc and the whole 'non-story' gets ratcheted up. On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoy the ebb and flow of the debate, but I do wonder if the popularity of both boards has a negative side and we are, unwittingly, the architects of some of the 'unrest' (which, according to TP, is non-existant btw Edited by beagle (27 Jan 2014 9.14pm) No.
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) | bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 28 Jan 14 9.36am |
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Hol and BBS represent a small percentage of Palace fans. The amount of bulls*** that is spouted on here is beyond belief and only a very poor journo would come on our forums for stories/info.
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| paperhat croydon 28 Jan 14 9.46am |
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Quote bubble wrap at 28 Jan 2014 9.36am
Hol and BBS represent a small percentage of Palace fans. The amount of bulls*** that is spouted on here is beyond belief and only a very poor journo would come on our forums for stories/info.
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| beagle pom tiddly om pom pom 28 Jan 14 9.46am |
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Quote wainesworld at 28 Jan 2014 9.33am
Quote beagle at 27 Jan 2014 9.11pm
Are the HOL/BBS architects of the club's 'unrest'? I put the word 'unrest' in inverted commas as Pullis has come out to the press to say not only is he going nowhere, but the board are/have been doing a top job. Which is a strange coincidence give that both Palace boards have been a fury of speculation, whispers, information, mis-information and passionate debate on both subjects. Extraordinarily Palace are fairly unique in having two 'thriving' (and that aint the half of it) boards. And we all know the football press keeps a close eye on the two sites for 'stories' (A case in point is someone like The Adder editor who is a regular in terms posting links to his paper's latest Palace 'scoop'- and there's no way he aint checking out the gossip and arguments we post). The boards are a barometer and an easy newsfeed. So if Pullis, as he says, genuinely has no problem with the board and isnt off anywhere then are we the architects of the club becomes a 'backpage story'? Pullis is fending off questions. The board is. The players will have their fingers on every media pulse and wondering if there are 'issues' etc etc and the whole 'non-story' gets ratcheted up. On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoy the ebb and flow of the debate, but I do wonder if the popularity of both boards has a negative side and we are, unwittingly, the architects of some of the 'unrest' (which, according to TP, is non-existant btw Edited by beagle (27 Jan 2014 9.14pm) No.
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 28 Jan 14 9.49am |
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Quote paperhat at 28 Jan 2014 9.46am
Quote bubble wrap at 28 Jan 2014 9.36am
Hol and BBS represent a small percentage of Palace fans. The amount of bulls*** that is spouted on here is beyond belief and only a very poor journo would come on our forums for stories/info.
Not sure they do,Probably get their stories from the Daily Mirror..
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Jan 14 10.29am |
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The papers are the architects, some of the forum can at times lap up whatever is served to them. One thing about Palace that's unique is that the percentage of Palace fans with accounts on HOL or the BBS is pretty high. How many Palace fans are there? 40,000? How many account holders? How many non-account holders speak to an account very soon after something like this comes out? How many Palace fans buy/read/log onto The Mirror unless there's a click through on HOL or the BBS? Very few. The papers throw a pack of dogs one bone, sit back, laugh, and wait to see if it causes article number 2 they've got ready to go to print.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Jan 14 10.33am |
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The papers are the architects, we are the nimby's holding our 1st meeting.
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| paperhat croydon 28 Jan 14 10.36am |
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I like the idea of reverse engineerng a story. Can we not meet before a game, contive something spectacular, then get someone to let slip on here and wait for the Mirror et al to release their "exclusive"?
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 28 Jan 14 10.38am |
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Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Jan 2014 10.29am
The papers are the architects, some of the forum can at times lap up whatever is served to them. One thing about Palace that's unique is that the percentage of Palace fans with accounts on HOL or the BBS is pretty high. How many Palace fans are there? 40,000? How many account holders? How many non-account holders speak to an account very soon after something like this comes out? How many Palace fans buy/read/log onto The Mirror unless there's a click through on HOL or the BBS? Very few. The papers throw a pack of dogs one bone, sit back, laugh, and wait to see if it causes article number 2 they've got ready to go to print. Sorry to disagree Rudi but I beleive the percentage of Palace fans on BBS and Hols is not that high I reckon 5% with the majority not active. BBS have far more than on here but the majority of fans I know do not go on here or will look but do not have accounts.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Jan 14 10.45am |
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Quote bubble wrap at 28 Jan 2014 10.38am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 28 Jan 2014 10.29am
The papers are the architects, some of the forum can at times lap up whatever is served to them. One thing about Palace that's unique is that the percentage of Palace fans with accounts on HOL or the BBS is pretty high. How many Palace fans are there? 40,000? How many account holders? How many non-account holders speak to an account very soon after something like this comes out? How many Palace fans buy/read/log onto The Mirror unless there's a click through on HOL or the BBS? Very few. The papers throw a pack of dogs one bone, sit back, laugh, and wait to see if it causes article number 2 they've got ready to go to print. Sorry to disagree Rudi but I beleive the percentage of Palace fans on BBS and Hols is not that high I reckon 5% with the majority not active. BBS have far more than on here but the majority of fans I know do not go on here or will look but do not have accounts.
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 28 Jan 14 12.18pm |
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Quote FinchleyEagle at 28 Jan 2014 8.11am
Quote Ian J at 28 Jan 2014 6.38am
Quote NEILLO at 27 Jan 2014 10.25pm
A lot of the debate on HOL has been fuelled by the newspaper ( well, The Mirror mainly ) reporting on our struggles in the transfer window. The extension of that is to report that Pulis is unhappy as a result. Until such time as we hear to the contrary, then of course we are going to do what this site is for - discuss, speculate, rant, whatever ! We all have our own views on how the club is run. This is a place where we can share those views, no matter how extreme some of them are. So to answer the original question - it's a '' no '' from me. What you say is true and much of the lively debate here has been fuelled by various Mirror stories. I must admit that I don't really understand what is going on as I don't believe that it is down to lazy journalism so that means that either someone is feeding them snippets for their own ends or else the Mirror are printing blatant lies and I'm not sure which one it is. The board are well aware of what is said on these boards and they do often use them as well as social media for putting across their views. They also know that many supporters are interested in their views otherwise why would Steve Parish have over 16,500 followers on his Twitter account. There is no doubt that robust debate on the forums does get the Board's attention and perhaps we do influence some of their thinking otherwise why would Steve Parish have said that they wouldn't be employing Chris Coleman as so many of the fans were against the idea. The board and Steve Parish in particular understand the power of the fan and know how important forums and social media is nowadays in formulating and spreading opinion and there is no doubt that it was the unrest here that forced Tony Pulis to state that he wouldn't be walking away but it's just a shame that Steve Parish and Steve Browett didn't come out and issue unequivocal denials straight away to kill off the story before it gained legs Yes mate you keep telling yourself how relevant this load of utter nonsense and ignorance is in the grand scheme of things. What you post here IS important. Bless. I'm sure journalists do come and have a look and then use it to back up the phrase 'the fans think...' But take a look at a thread, any thread. So many unresearched things stated as 'fact', hyperbole, vitriol, opinions and egos - anyone who genuinely takes anything seriously on here needs a reality check.
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| Stuart_Eagle Kent 28 Jan 14 1.21pm |
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Quote Manc_Palace at 27 Jan 2014 11.01pm
Quote Mapletree at 27 Jan 2014 9.59pm
Quote Manc_Palace at 27 Jan 2014 9.48pm
It's really difficult to come on this forum at the moment and take anything seriously. I sincerely hope we don't have another world war and I'm not in the trenches with half of you as you'd be having breakdowns every five minutes. Is there anything that can be said or done that can make you guys just have a little patience and wait until the 1st? Unfortunately none of us are privvy to the information that you desire and speculating is making some people really not cope very well. We need to look after these people and understand that conjecture in any form really affects their daily lives Thank you Strange post. Everyone on this thread is being reasonable. If the 'you' is aimed at Holers in general maybe I see your point.
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