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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Jun 21 3.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS. He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant I actually agree with you, BUT, & it will be covered & mentioned especially by the bbc/sky. They will may even end up liking us. I'm with CF on this, bollox click bait Oh dear, snowflake alert Edited by eagleman13 (29 Jun 2021 3.41pm)
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TheBigToePunt 29 Jun 21 3.38pm | |
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If it comes off then I'll be happy enough with Vieira. He wasn't my first choice but to be fair I didn't have a first choice. Each alleged candidate had strengths and weaknesses. Parish talked about getting someone to win games whilst developing youth, and the press said Palace preferred someone with Premier league experience. I personally placed significant weight on the hunger of the new man to succeed. I didn't want someone like Benitez who had such a good media image that he could afford to f*** it up at Palace and not have his career damaged. I want someone who needs to succeed at Palace. That was the attraction of Ishmael and Cooper for me, and I quite like that the jury is out on Vieira as a manager and he has to prove himself. He has done an apprenticeship rather than trade on his status, which is vital, but remains unproven, which suits Palace. He knows the league, the culture, the language etc, and has worked with youth players at City, as well as seeing a small army of promising youngsters try but fail to make it at arsenal in his playing days, so should have seen both sides of that particular coin. All in all, he's a perfectly good candidate and if he's hungry for the job then that probably moves him above Nuno and Favre, neither of whom were.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 29 Jun 21 3.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS. He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant aren't all Prem or Football League clubs required to interview a black, asian or minority ethnic candidate for every managerial role? That means they'd have had to sought out a manager to fulfil the requirement so he could only have been on our radar initially because of this
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Knightstar Guildford 29 Jun 21 3.46pm | |
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Not to worry, if it doesn't work out, because FDB has just become available!
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Nubes London 29 Jun 21 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
aren't all Prem or Football League clubs required to interview a black, asian or minority ethnic candidate for every managerial role? That means they'd have had to sought out a manager to fulfil the requirement so he could only have been on our radar initially because of this Nope - Prem Clubs haven’t adopted the Rooney Rule. If he is appointed it’s on merit, not through the Rooney Rule. Although, if he was appointed through the Rooney Rule that would also be on merit!
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Sansbup Norfolk 29 Jun 21 3.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
This whole manager recruitment has seen more twists and turns than the Monaco Formula 1 street circuit with Steve Parish having a brow corrugated with worries on occasions and tearing chunks out of his shampoo-advert mane. Unusually bereft of punctuation, if you don't mind me saying so?
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chris123 hove actually 29 Jun 21 3.51pm | |
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Welcome Paddy.
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taylors lovechild 29 Jun 21 3.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS. He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant Ultimately he'll be judged on results irrespective of the colour of his skin, the same way we judge the players. It is unavoidable that the topic will come up though given the lack of black managers at the top level of the game. Hopefully he can be a positive role model and give confidence to other black players considering a career in management. There's no harm in that. If anyone seriously thinks Parish would hire someone just because of the colour of their skin then they probably need to stop watching re-runs of Jim Davidson's Big Break and live in the real world.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 29 Jun 21 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Nubes
Nope - Prem Clubs haven’t adopted the Rooney Rule. If he is appointed it’s on merit, not through the Rooney Rule. Although, if he was appointed through the Rooney Rule that would also be on merit! appointment yes of course that's on merit, but I thought there was something about diversity of interviewees that needs to be followed
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rollercoaster Cornwall 29 Jun 21 4.08pm | |
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Most of us were scarred by the FbD debacle. So any 'ex-world-class' player coming to manage Palace has that feel about it. Worried he will expect too much from our very-average players. On the plus side he will be hungry for success. I think we need that at this stage, not another been there, seen-it-all yawn manager. Also as has been said, might be an asset on the recruitment front. Any reasonable incoming candidate would do me at this stage so we can just get on with it and sort out next season.
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ogyogyogy herne bay 29 Jun 21 4.15pm | |
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Well said Rollercoaster
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YT Oxford 29 Jun 21 4.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
appointment yes of course that's on merit, but I thought there was something about diversity of interviewees that needs to be followed I doubt we'll be criticised for not having interviewed any white, male, English candidates.
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