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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Sep 22 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Fairness? What a lying joke.

This here represents what the real liberal elites think. They will do anything to stop what they regard as evil. They are about as interested in fairness as they are in being personally poor.

If you haven't yet seen the Sam Harris video clip, watch it as it reveals the mentality and metaphorically just how far they would go.

TDS....Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2022 3.18pm)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 22 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez


for clarification I also think they should either scrap personal income tax in any case & maybe charge you higher VAT or make it scrupulously fair & have a flat (say 20%) tax right across the board

I quite like a flat rate tax across the board. For it to work you would pretty much have to abolish all forms of tax breaks.

The good news is that the rich would pay more because if you earn £1m pa say you never pay 40% on that currently due to your clever accountant.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Sep 22 3.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I quite like a flat rate tax across the board. For it to work you would pretty much have to abolish all forms of tax breaks.

The good news is that the rich would pay more because if you earn £1m pa say you never pay 40% on that currently due to your clever accountant.

If they stayed.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Sep 22 3.32pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Actually I don’t think it is an option. Seen nothing on my return which indicates voluntary payments but in any case one person alone makes no difference. It’s the general principle I mean.

You can donate to charity !

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 22 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If they stayed.

Sue but if they abolished the top rate and we only had one flat rate...

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Sep 22 4.24pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Sue but if they abolished the top rate and we only had one flat rate...

Suddenly, a load of unemployed Accountants and Tax Specialists - hardly dare envisage how boring dole queues would become.
I'd never really thought about it but, quite seriously, an overly complicated, antiquated and legalistic tax system, full of loopholes, keeps thousands in jobs. Probably tens of thousands! Let's face reality: flat rate tax would be bound to have a loophole for the rich anyway, that we can guarantee.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Sep 22 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Sue but if they abolished the top rate and we only had one flat rate...

I hear that beat.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 22 5.07pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Suddenly, a load of unemployed Accountants and Tax Specialists - hardly dare envisage how boring dole queues would become.
I'd never really thought about it but, quite seriously, an overly complicated, antiquated and legalistic tax system, full of loopholes, keeps thousands in jobs. Probably tens of thousands! Let's face reality: flat rate tax would be bound to have a loophole for the rich anyway, that we can guarantee.

Same applies to the benefits system. One of the few advantages of a basic income is that you could scrap most of the benefits, the bureaucracy and the thousands of the jobs that go with it.

Unfortunately this is a bit of a left wing unicorn so far where it has been trialed it has not delivered and the trials have not progressed further.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 22 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You can donate to charity !

I do.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Sep 22 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

More historical Biden lies.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Sep 22 6.01pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

More historical Biden lies.

I honestly never got over him using Kinnock's speech verbatim in 1988. How can you do that and make a comeback? Plagiarism doesn't cut it even - this is just BS. 'I'm the first in my family to go to university. My Father's a miner, my father's father was a miner' and so on, just the same speech! To be fair it's actually hilarious.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Sep 22 6.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I do.

Well give more and hmg won’t have to. You said you wouldn’t have an issue if you were taxed more; so give more until your at that level you perceive to be at with what would be new tax rules at 20%. We all give to charity, well the workers anyhow by the fact the UK sends money to poor countries. Do more wissie, you can afford it !

 

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