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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour.

Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing.

Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 17 5.28pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour.

Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing.

Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.


I saw that. Needs to be headline news.


 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.34pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Jeremy not one to complain but this will have been circulated everywhere.

Will it be traced directly to Tory HQ ??

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

It's the NHS itself that needs reforming, no matter how much money taxpayers chuck at it. How much does a staff nurse or a junior doctor earn? Not as much as one of these w@nkers, I'll be bound.

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Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 17 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

It was decided at executive level that you needed a break.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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elgrande Flag bedford 02 Jun 17 5.41pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

What people have been posting things that proves labour isn't all roses and utopia.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Jun 17 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Irony alert: Andrew Lansley, the shadow health secretary, said the Government's financial mismanagement had forced hospitals to make cuts which could risk lives. "These bed cuts were financially driven: the sharp rise in the numbers closed happened at a time when the health service was under desperate pressure to clear a massive deficit."


NHS deficits are at record levels now having been cut to the bone since 2010.


What this article doesn't address is what impact this actually had on health outcomes.

What's certainly the case now is that the NHS needs significant investment. We have far lower doctor ratios than most other OECD countries, declining nurse numbers and more and more demand. The % of GDP spent on health is also very low in international terms. If you were to fall ill you'd be well advised to hop on the Eurostar to Paris where you will received much better healthcare (I speak from personal experience). France has more doctors, more nurses and more investment.

Could this desperate need come from the huge costs of PFI that Labour inflicted upon the NHS and the tax payer?

You speak like Labour didn't close hospitals and waste loads of money on management.

You need to face facts about the NHS instead of using it as a political tool.

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 02 Jun 17 5.43pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

Yeah so have I.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Jun 17 5.47pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


The ire hasn't really been aimed at me today, just scanning through what I've missed and seen lots of f***ing idiot type responses.

Crying foul again? Becoming a bit of a habit.

Typical socialist.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (02 Jun 2017 5.47pm)

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tory attack ad misrepresents Corbyn views on IRA, says Labour.

Widely shared video uses misleading edit of Corbyn’s interview on Sky News, cut to suggest he did not condemn bombing.

Looks like its true and the part where Corbyn condemns all bombing is removed.

In 2004 John McDonnell, Labour’s shadow chancellor, was given a special award by Sinn Fein and another IRA-supporting body for the “unfailing political and personal support he has given to the republican community in the Six Counties over many years.” The award was presented to him at a Sinn Fein fundraising dinner by Gerry Kelly, the IRA terrorist who bombed the Old Bailey, killing one and injuring almost 200. Kelly, now a senior Sinn Fein politician, also led the 1983 breakout of IRA inmates from the Maze prison, during which he shot a prison officer in the head. McDonnell also opposed the peace process negotiations to create a power-sharing assembly in what became the Good Friday Agreement. He said: “An assembly is not what people have laid down their lives for over thirty years … the settlement must be for a united Ireland.”

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Jun 17 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

In terms of pure data public spending on health the facts are:

1997: 4.73% of GDP
2009: 7.77% of GDP (peak - 2010 was 7.70%)
2015 (latest year available): 7.62% of GDP

Make of that what you will. Pure data though can be misleading.

Also number of doctors per 1000 population:

1997: 1.85
2009: 2.65
2015: 2.80


Nurses per 1000:

2000 (earliest available): 9.01
2009: 9.75
2014 (latest available): 8.19


Source: OECD

Doesn't really tell the whole story does it.

It's about funding care in a way that doesn't bankrupt the organisation.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Jun 17 5.57pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

In 2004 John McDonnell, Labour’s shadow chancellor, was given a special award by Sinn Fein and another IRA-supporting body for the “unfailing political and personal support he has given to the republican community in the Six Counties over many years.” The award was presented to him at a Sinn Fein fundraising dinner by Gerry Kelly, the IRA terrorist who bombed the Old Bailey, killing one and injuring almost 200. Kelly, now a senior Sinn Fein politician, also led the 1983 breakout of IRA inmates from the Maze prison, during which he shot a prison officer in the head. McDonnell also opposed the peace process negotiations to create a power-sharing assembly in what became the Good Friday Agreement. He said: “An assembly is not what people have laid down their lives for over thirty years … the settlement must be for a united Ireland.”

I don't think you can 'doctor' a video like that H regardless.

The problem is that it will have been widely circulated its quite serious I think.

 

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