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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 8.41am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The 2011 Ofcom survey relied upon by WE to support his opinion ( opinions can't be proven as at that point they become fact but let's not be pedantic on poor use of English ) asked less than 1000 people who claimed to have an interest in the news, so it was limited to a narrow questioning based on news coverage only. A poll in 2022 by a national newspaper asked nearly 7000 of it's readers if the BBC was fit for purpose or should it be defunded. Over 95% thought the BBC was not fit for purpose and wanted it defunded from the the public purse. Edited by HKOwen (15 Jul 2023 7.54am) I suspect Ofcom will select their respondents more objectively than any national newspaper with a particular readership. Try asking Guardian readers whether they believe the present government are doing a good job and you might get a 95% no.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 15 Jul 23 9.10am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
The 2011 Ofcom survey relied upon by WE to support his opinion ( opinions can't be proven as at that point they become fact but let's not be pedantic on poor use of English ) asked less than 1000 people who claimed to have an interest in the news, so it was limited to a narrow questioning based on news coverage only. A poll in 2022 by a national newspaper asked nearly 7000 of it's readers if the BBC was fit for purpose or should it be defunded. Over 95% thought the BBC was not fit for purpose and wanted it defunded from the the public purse. Edited by HKOwen (15 Jul 2023 7.54am) Fewer. Just saying.
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Teddy Eagle  15 Jul 23 9.17am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Again, try reading what your link actually says and not what you want it to say. Wipe your mind free of preconceptions and try to be objective. No-one suggests this situation was healthy but that’s not the same thing. The fact is people at the BBC knew what was happening and took no action which then led to young people being abused for decades. To claim that staff might have known but management didn't is just ridiculous and depends on no one being promoted.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 15 Jul 23 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I suspect Ofcom will select their respondents more objectively than any national newspaper with a particular readership. Try asking Guardian readers whether they believe the present government are doing a good job and you might get a 95% no. Suspect LMFAO, never change
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Jul 23 10.39am |
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Almost as charged am I guilty, although, there is a school of thought that less can used for a quantifiable but not the opposite. A fair call out though Edited by HKOwen (15 Jul 2023 10.39am)
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Jul 23 10.41am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The fact is people at the BBC knew what was happening and took no action which then led to young people being abused for decades. To claim that staff might have known but management didn't is just ridiculous and depends on no one being promoted. Not if someone says it was not the case, your head must be broken with all that wall banging, I share your pain
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| palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 15 Jul 23 10.48am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Almost as charged am I guilty, although, there is a school of thought that less can used for a quantifiable but not the opposite. A fair call out though Edited by HKOwen (15 Jul 2023 10.39am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jul 23 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I suspect Ofcom will select their respondents more objectively than any national newspaper with a particular readership. Try asking Guardian readers whether they believe the present government are doing a good job and you might get a 95% no. Pointless argument about a 12 year old survey. I'm sure I can find one from that same year saying the Tories are doing a good job. Since 2011 there are far more streaming services and more people accessing them, more young people not watching conventional TV and fewer older ones as they have died off.
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| Teddy Eagle 15 Jul 23 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Pointless argument about a 12 year old survey. I'm sure I can find one from that same year saying the Tories are doing a good job. Since 2011 there are far more streaming services and more people accessing them, more young people not watching conventional TV and fewer older ones as they have died off. Conversely older people who voted for Brexit and are no longer around are used as an argument to reverse the vote.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Jul 23 12.19pm |
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The BBC buys 50,000 copies of the Guardian a year, the public buy 100,000. Says it all really
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Pointless argument about a 12 year old survey. I'm sure I can find one from that same year saying the Tories are doing a good job. Since 2011 there are far more streaming services and more people accessing them, more young people not watching conventional TV and fewer older ones as they have died off. Not actually the point! The point is the basis of those being surveyed. If they are from the population as a whole or from any particular group. I have little doubt that an up to date survey wouldn’t produce an identical result.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 23 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Not if someone says it was not the case, your head must be broken with all that wall banging, I share your pain It’s not me that says it though is it? It’s the report that says it. Despite the persistent claims to the contrary. Those claiming later to have known must have those claims treated with caution. All that is relevant is whether anyone reported suspicions to management at the time, whether employees, parents or the abused. It appears that this didn’t happen in any way to cause any kind of investigation to be undertaken. That this now seems both incredible and unacceptable is true and the strongest of reasons for the procedures to be improved. You think Teddy’s head hurts? Imagine mine with the level of obdurate misunderstanding of the actual facts involved. The persistent repetition of lies often results in people thinking them to be true. Certain tabloids do this all the time and I suspect it’s in play here. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (15 Jul 2023 2.31pm)
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