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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Dec 20 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by W12
No, Japan will only accept immigration because it will be pressured to do so by outside influence and subversion like we have. These are forces outside of it's own culture. What has empire got to do with it? Even when the empire was at it's height we were an ethnically homogeneous country. "No-one wants illegal immigration" that's relatively small problem. Most people do not want mass immigration. Never have. "Ensuring we get the skilled workers we need" - why not train our own or are they just too stupid? We should have no "international humanitarian duties". Why is it always down to us to step in for the civilisationally incompetent? "We have a reputation to protect which we destroy at our peril" - why? England is what our forefathers built, left in our trust and defended with their lives. Nobody fought wars for meaningless abstractions like "British values". They fought it for their own people, their own land and and their right to exist as a sovereign nation free of foreign interference. How is or ever was mass immigration good or fair for indigenous working class English people? Totally agree. There is no need to atone for a largely imagined past. There is no need to cower and be apologetic and there is certainly absolutely no need to have our laws, territory, morals and society diluted, and then over taken, by unskilled, uneducated and frankly incompatible people. You only have to take one look at many of these people's attitudes towards sexual freedom or sexual equality to find out exactly how incompatible they are.
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Eaglecoops  CR3 15 Dec 20 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Totally agree. There is no need to atone for a largely imagined past. There is no need to cower and be apologetic and there is certainly absolutely no need to have our laws, territory, morals and society diluted, and then over taken, by unskilled, uneducated and frankly incompatible people. You only have to take one look at many of these people's attitudes towards sexual freedom or sexual equality to find out exactly how incompatible they are. Absolutely. Reassuringly expensive is how I used to describe my consultancy fees! Lol.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 15 Dec 20 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Absolutely. Reassuringly expensive is how I used to describe my consultancy fees! Lol. As i used to say to stranded uber customers who didn"t fancy paying the 10x fare surcharge uber were charging when the trains were down, you get what you pay for!
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| Stirlingsays 15 Dec 20 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by W12
No, Japan will only accept immigration because it will be pressured to do so by outside influence and subversion like we have. These are forces outside of it's own culture. What has empire got to do with it? Even when the empire was at it's height we were an ethnically homogeneous country. "No-one wants illegal immigration" that's relatively small problem. Most people do not want mass immigration. Never have. "Ensuring we get the skilled workers we need" - why not train our own or are they just too stupid? We should have no "international humanitarian duties". Why is it always down to us to step in for the civilisationally incompetent? "We have a reputation to protect which we destroy at our peril" - why? England is what our forefathers built, left in our trust and defended with their lives. Nobody fought wars for meaningless abstractions like "British values". They fought it for their own people, their own land and and their right to exist as a sovereign nation free of foreign interference. How is or ever was mass immigration good or fair for indigenous working class English people?
Blame it on communist/socialist infiltration into education, blame it on globalism, blame it on too much nihilism...in a sense it's almost besides the point. Really....whether the elites are on the left or the right or inbetween it's always the same game as to the motivations....'meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss'. The only differences are the tools at their disposal.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Dec 20 6.24pm |
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Tim Pool's take on how the right will react to a Biden presidency. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2020 6.25pm)
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 15 Dec 20 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Blame it on communist/socialist infiltration into education, blame it on globalism, blame it on too much nihilism...in a sense it's almost besides the point. Really....whether the elites are on the left or the right or inbetween it's always the same game as to the motivations....'meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss'. The only differences are the tools at their disposal.
Yep
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| Stirlingsays 15 Dec 20 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Yep Reassuringly succinct sir.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Dec 20 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
Trump dancing, Kim Jong-Un on drums and a cat bopping to the beat: I have to admit....I kind of love all the variations of this meme.
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BlueJay  UK 15 Dec 20 10.26pm |
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Trump retweets post calling for Georgia republicans to be jailed Quote President Donald Trump has retweeted a post from a conservative attorney that called for senior Georgia Republicans to be jailed.
On Tuesday, Mr Trump retweeted a tweet from Lin Wood, an attorney who has filed multiple unsuccessful lawsuits in an effort to help the President overturn 3 November’s election results. “President Trump…is a genuinely good man. He does not really like to fire people. I bet he dislikes putting people in jail, especially ‘Republicans,’” Mr Wood said. “He gave @BrianKempGA & @GaSecofState every chance to get it right. They refused. They will soon be going to jail,” he added, in the post that was retweeted by President Trump on Tuesday morning.
President Trump reignited the feud on Monday, when he called Mr Kemp a “fool” and a “clown”, adding that it “could have been so easy, but now we have to do it the hard way.”
On Monday, the attorney appeared to reference firearms and ammunition as he told his supporters to stock up on “2nd Amendment supplies”. “Better to be safe than sorry,” Mr Lin tweeted on Monday, before he added: “Make sure you have PLENTY of water, food, flashlights & batteries, candles, radio, 2nd Amendment supplies, & a plan to meet with leaders of your communities. - [Link]
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Dec 20 11.58pm |
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Originally posted by W12
No, Japan will only accept immigration because it will be pressured to do so by outside influence and subversion like we have. These are forces outside of it's own culture. What has empire got to do with it? Even when the empire was at it's height we were an ethnically homogeneous country. "No-one wants illegal immigration" that's relatively small problem. Most people do not want mass immigration. Never have. "Ensuring we get the skilled workers we need" - why not train our own or are they just too stupid? We should have no "international humanitarian duties". Why is it always down to us to step in for the civilisationally incompetent? "We have a reputation to protect which we destroy at our peril" - why? England is what our forefathers built, left in our trust and defended with their lives. Nobody fought wars for meaningless abstractions like "British values". They fought it for their own people, their own land and and their right to exist as a sovereign nation free of foreign interference. How is or ever was mass immigration good or fair for indigenous working class English people? How tediously predictable this reply is! It's full of the anticipated cliches, misunderstandings and jingoism. Empire has everything to do with it! Not during the days of Empire itself but because it's part of a continuum which leads from yesterday, through today and onto tomorrow. We ruled half the world and that half thought of us as home. We gave the world it's international language. Through independence, national pride has grown, but we are still regarded by many as where they want to be. We made commitments, which emotionally still matter. With English as their second, or sometimes first language we are where many people target, even if we are often seen as a stepping stone on a passage west. That doesn't account for all of course because we also accept those needing our humanitarian assistance. People that you clearly despise but most of us are proud to be able to help. We don't "always" do it! We play our part, as we should. You don't care about our reputation for honest dealing and fairness? Shame on you. I do. From a practical point of view our trustworthiness is one of our only remaining bankable assets. Playing dirty with people's lives is a pretty efficient way to destroy that. Which is why cutting the foreign aid budget is madness. Train our own workers! That old mantra! If only it were that simple. Our unemployment rate varies but remove the unemployable and there is no-where near enough slack to provide what we need if we are to sustain a growing economy, and grow we must to be able to repay the huge debts we are running up. We don't have the education system or the adult training places available and it would take decades to turn that around. Do it and then more UK workers could move up a stratum so we would then need immigration to fill the jobs they were doing. We need cleaners. We need carers. Just as much as we need doctors and lawyers. The "we want the country of our forefathers back" argument is pathetic. My Dad would not have wanted it back. He would have wanted us to progress and face the modern world, and not hide from it like a coward. The constant references to "mass" immigration is a red herring. What's important is what we are doing now and whether it matches our needs and responsibilities. What happened in the past is done. It needs to be managed for sure but it now must be accepted and not allowed to dominate. Living in the past is a pointless exercise.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Dec 20 12.04am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Totally agree. There is no need to atone for a largely imagined past. There is no need to cower and be apologetic and there is certainly absolutely no need to have our laws, territory, morals and society diluted, and then over taken, by unskilled, uneducated and frankly incompatible people. You only have to take one look at many of these people's attitudes towards sexual freedom or sexual equality to find out exactly how incompatible they are. No-one is talking about any need to atone for anything! It's just a historical fact which cannot be brushed away. It has consequences which linger and will continue to linger for generations to come. We have thrown away the best opportunity to break with our Empiralist past with Brexit. As part of the EU we presented a modern face to the world. Let's hope it's not too long before wake up and realise what folly it is.
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Dec 20 8.44am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is talking about any need to atone for anything! It's just a historical fact which cannot be brushed away. It has consequences which linger and will continue to linger for generations to come. We have thrown away the best opportunity to break with our Empiralist past with Brexit. As part of the EU we presented a modern face to the world. Let's hope it's not too long before wake up and realise what folly it is. BS
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