It's difficult to see Sunak getting the Members vote.

While I have no time for either candidate, it was refreshing to see that Truss is to outlaw wolf whistling. It's not often a politician gets behind a cause that doesn't affect them personally

Old, Ungifted and White

Truss has seemingly an unassailable lead.
Truss probably trails on electability and likeability, but we did elect Iain Duncan Smith in 2001.

I have actually been in conversation with a plethora of members, across an array of constituencies, and there is precious little support for Sunak.

Heseltine famously said: "He who wields the knife never wears the crown." .There is a small but powerful sense Sunak backstabbed Boris Johnson whereas Truss is viewed as being loyal to him by not resigning.

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Almost the whole country turned against Boris yet Truss is viewed positively for sticking by him.

I just don't get that

This appears to be a commonly held opinion among those here who live in London. I think it is seriously flawed. It's nothing new. My mother railed about the arrival of the West Indians. Other relatives, living in Southall, upped and moved to Cornwall when the Indians arrived. They did OK, becoming millionaires, one as a builder, the other servicing farm equipment. So have many of the Indians.

No-one ever lives another's life. I don't live either that of a farmer, or a fisherman, and some incomers complain bitterly about the way the farmers fail to maintain footpaths and gates.

Nor have the ethnic British lived the lives of the immigrants. They have no real understanding of what it is like to not know where the next meal will come from, whether your home will be destroyed by war or how you will save a sick child.

We can all agree that managing immigration is essential. It's not the need, it's whether it's possible that is the real question. We are though where we are, and constantly complaining about how we got here achieves nothing. We had better all get used to it, because it isn't going away, and will only accelerate as the impact of climate change bites.

Everything in life changes. London has always been changing. Not liking those changes is par for the course for some. If you cannot adapt, then you will either be unhappy, or you had best find somewhere else to live. Finding ways for the various communities to live alongside one another, without rancour, and then to gradually mix is a well trodden path. Dealing with crimes, from whatever source, should be the expectation of all. Produce a harmonious, tolerate atmosphere, in which people can work and play alongside one another, and the crime will naturally diminish.

I don't have to live these lives to make these observations! In fact, I am probably better able to make them as I am not emotionally involved, so have a more objective perspective.

I left London 57 years ago to pursue my career and be able to buy a house. Not because of immigration! I don't care who my neighbours are. What I care about is how they behave, and there are plenty of ethnic Brits whose behaviour I find thoroughly distasteful. I don't like cities. I don't like the crowds, noise and rush. I enjoy space, nature and peace and quiet.

Those who don't like their own city, for whatever reason, always have the option of doing what I have done. It all depends on your priorities, but moaning cannot solve your problems. Moving can.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Except I never mentioned immigration; as far as I'm concerned anyone born in England is English. And I have taken the same option and moved out of London.
I lived there until I was 58 and if my wife was a Londoner I'd very probably still be there.
I don't live in Edinburgh but I enjoy going there, and Glasgow even more, because I do like cities. Just not my own any more.

Maybe it's inference rather than implication.