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 eaglesdare  09 Aug 23 11.37am |
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I would prefer to back the "Kick racism out of football campaign" which I have done in the past. [Link] - John Barnes Exposes Black Lives Matter
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Aug 23 11.40am |
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Originally posted by lefty27
I don’t understand why people have an issue with it. Racism still exists in football, if people think this will have a positive effect (I don’t) then crack on, it’s not going to ruin my enjoyment of the game though. I think the thread is quite clear. No one is in favour of racism but this is a meaningless gesture that makes the footballers feel good without them having to do anything. Compared to Spain and other countries the level of racist abuse in this country is nothing and when it happens is treated seriously by the authorities. In Spain Vinicius has received disgraceful treatment and not been supported by the authorities. If the players are serious they should walk off the pitch, refuse to play teams with racist supporters and even boycott UEFA and FIFA competitions until the authorities take proper action instead of paltry fines. I wont hold my breath.
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| Lombardinho London 09 Aug 23 11.41am |
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They tried to demonise Wilf for not doing it.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Aug 23 11.44am |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
They tried to demonise Wilf for not doing it. Who tried to demonise Wilf for not doing it? Who is the 'they' who brought it back, if not the club captains? How many quotes and interviews do you need from said club captains before you accept that maybe this is just what they want to do?
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 09 Aug 23 11.51am |
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Originally posted by YT
Any statement from former Premier League captains on whether they will be taking the knee in Saudi Arabia? I think they’re going to take the knee against FGM instead…
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Aug 23 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by lefty27
I don’t understand why people have an issue with it. Racism still exists in football, if people think this will have a positive effect (I don’t) then crack on, it’s not going to ruin my enjoyment of the game though. Because it’s football, people are in attendance to watch a game of football.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Aug 23 2.06pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Because it’s football, people are in attendance to watch a game of football. Totally agree. They pay good hard earned money to go & enjoy a match, what they don't need is virtual signalling over paid players doing the FA's bidding. Most, not all, supporters, dont give a toss about 'taking the knee'. So, why do they need it rammed down their throats at matches? (re-enforced) tin hat firmly on. Edited by eagleman13 (09 Aug 2023 2.07pm)
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Aug 23 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Totally agree. They pay good hard earned money to go & enjoy a match, what they don't need is virtual signalling over paid players doing the FA's bidding. Most, not all, supporters, dont give a toss about 'taking the knee'. So, why do they need it rammed down their throats at matches? (re-enforced) tin hat firmly on. Edited by eagleman13 (09 Aug 2023 2.07pm) I don't give a toss about cheerleaders, mascots, kids taking penalties, random boxers/athletes lapping the pitch and a whole host of other things which you will find at football matches, but I also don't consider those things to be 'rammed down my throat' because they take place in the same venue I'm in. If it's not for you, engage your attention in something else for a matter of seconds and it will all be over - it's not even close to accurate to suggest a silent protest which occupies about 10 seconds, before the game even starts, is being 'rammed down your throat' and to the detriment of people's enjoyment of the match. If you oppose the protest, at least own your reasons and stop pretending it's anything to do with the matchday experience.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Aug 23 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I don't give a toss about cheerleaders, mascots, kids taking penalties, random boxers/athletes lapping the pitch and a whole host of other things which you will find at football matches, but I also don't consider those things to be 'rammed down my throat' because they take place in the same venue I'm in. If it's not for you, engage your attention in something else for a matter of seconds and it will all be over - it's not even close to accurate to suggest a silent protest which occupies about 10 seconds, before the game even starts, is being 'rammed down your throat' and to the detriment of people's enjoyment of the match. If you oppose the protest, at least own your reasons and stop pretending it's anything to do with the matchday experience. Its got everything to do with the matchday experience, its part n parcel of going to a game. If you like it, fine, but don't spit your dummy out at me. There are better & more established ways to fight racism, equality etc. Taking the knee ain't gonna change anything. IMO. You once told me, i wasn't worth engaging with, as i had no idea, same could be said of you. Have A Nice Day!
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 09 Aug 23 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I don't give a toss about cheerleaders, mascots, kids taking penalties, random boxers/athletes lapping the pitch and a whole host of other things which you will find at football matches, but I also don't consider those things to be 'rammed down my throat' because they take place in the same venue I'm in. If it's not for you, engage your attention in something else for a matter of seconds and it will all be over - it's not even close to accurate to suggest a silent protest which occupies about 10 seconds, before the game even starts, is being 'rammed down your throat' and to the detriment of people's enjoyment of the match. If you oppose the protest, at least own your reasons and stop pretending it's anything to do with the matchday experience. My objection is more about ‘why?’, as I see that it has caused more division than anything else. Was George Floyd British? No. Was he killed by a British national? No. Was he killed on British soil? No. It was/is nothing to do with us and yet whilst everybody is trying to move on, this farce continues to be carried out. Wilf was correct that it has lost its meaning. It’s just boring now.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Aug 23 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Its got everything to do with the matchday experience, its part n parcel of going to a game. If you like it, fine, but don't spit your dummy out at me. There are better & more established ways to fight racism, equality etc. Taking the knee ain't gonna change anything. IMO. You once told me, i wasn't worth engaging with, as i had no idea, same could be said of you. Have A Nice Day! The efficacy of the protest is irrelevant really - I just respect their right to do it. Those 4 seconds don't have any impact on the matchday experience, except in your own head.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Aug 23 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
My objection is more about ‘why?’, as I see that it has caused more division than anything else. Was George Floyd British? No. Was he killed by a British national? No. Was he killed on British soil? No. It was/is nothing to do with us and yet whilst everybody is trying to move on, this farce continues to be carried out. Wilf was correct that it has lost its meaning. It’s just boring now. There are loads of protests I don't agree with, but I don't think they shouldn't be allowed to take place - particular when they are as inoffensive as silently taking a knee for a few seconds.
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