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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Apr 18 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

His performance will be evaluated by a former senior referee who will scrutinise every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure his technical performance.
Match delegates consisting of former players and managers will assess the accuracy and consistency of his decision making and his management of the match.
It will be a vigorous and 'Forensic' evaluation.

I have NOT seen any of the incidents which have been discussed on here so cannot comment.

Must now 'Hit the hay' as I have a flight to catch tomorrow - going to see some games abroad before returning for the Leicester game.

Big Palace fan then.

Or like Wenger when his players are in the frame.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 21 Apr 18 11.00pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

His performance will be evaluated by a former senior referee who will scrutinise every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure his technical performance.
Match delegates consisting of former players and managers will assess the accuracy and consistency of his decision making and his management of the match.
It will be a vigorous and 'Forensic' evaluation.

I have NOT seen any of the incidents which have been discussed on here so cannot comment.

Must now 'Hit the hay' as I have a flight to catch tomorrow - going to see some games abroad before returning for the Leicester game.

and nothing at all will happen to him for his total incompetence!

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 21 Apr 18 11.09pm

Ref looked like a child officiating a mans game. Never really seen anything like it.

 


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chateauferret Flag 21 Apr 18 11.15pm

Originally posted by Willo

His performance will be evaluated by a former senior referee who will scrutinise every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure his technical performance.
Match delegates consisting of former players and managers will assess the accuracy and consistency of his decision making and his management of the match.
It will be a vigorous and 'Forensic' evaluation.



Let's see what PGMOL has to say on the subject.

"There is a robust system for measuring Select Group performance over the season. Each Premier League match is evaluated by a former senior referee who scrutinises every decision using the match footage and ProZone to measure the officials’ technical performance. Former players and managers (Match Delegates) assess the accuracy and consistency of decision making and their management of the match."

Sound familiar?

[Link]

So that blows out of the water any idea that you have the slightest clue what *really* goes on in these so-called "evaluations". You've copied your statement straight from the PR spin of the organisation you obviously represent. Anyone watching today's game or so many other matches would meet that spin with the derisory guffaw that it clearly deserves because it's what happens in the matches that matters, and what happens in the matches is f***ing toilet.

I think you must be a retired civil servant and not only that you must be one of those policy EOs whose job it was to trot out mealy-mouthed weasel-worded ereplies to "Treat Officially" correspondence, i.e. the letters that (normally junior) officials write to members of the public when they write to a Minister about some consequence of his bumbling incompetence. Of course, such replies were cut-and-pasted standard responses carefully drafted in advance by PR experts and Special Advisers (i.e. spin doctors) to make manifestly incompetent and/or dishonest people look as if they can be trusted whilst obscuring the ghastly truth.

One would only have to preface the above-quoted paragraph of feeble spin with the words "I have been asked to reply" and it would look just like such a letter.

You come out with identical s*** every time a referee in one of our matches performs incompetently. Which is about every other week. And we've demonstrated to you time and time again why it's bollocks: if it were true, officials' performances would improve; they don't; they are getting worse, and worse, and worse.

Today's referee was totally incompetent and miles out of his depth and it's long overdue that you woke up, got your head out of your arse and smelled the coffee.

Edited by chateauferret (21 Apr 2018 11.38pm)

 


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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 21 Apr 18 11.35pm

Doesn't 'forensic' - from the latin origin - mean 'to the court'

Forensic evidence is evidence for the court.

(It's not about people in labcoats with bunsen burners and goggles)


The 'court' that the Referee's Panel reports to is "the Court of Public Opinion' where the residing judge is the biggest idiot with the loudest mouth and the shortest attention span.

So if there is a torch bearing mob of village idiots, who want to burn the monster that is Wilfred Zaha, the court of public opinion will be presided over by the simpleton who runs in front of the mob and pretends he is leading it.

"Oive seen Zaha eat a whole sheep, so I have. Then he dazzled our defenders, who were forced to kick him, in self defence.

He be a diver. so he be."

"Aye, I've seen it too."

Originally posted by Willo

His performance will be evaluated by a former senior referee who will scrutinise every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure his technical performance.
Match delegates consisting of former players and managers will assess the accuracy and consistency of his decision making and his management of the match.
It will be a vigorous and 'Forensic' evaluation.

I have NOT seen any of the incidents which have been discussed on here so cannot comment.

Must now 'Hit the hay' as I have a flight to catch tomorrow - going to see some games abroad before returning for the Leicester game.

 

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chateauferret Flag 21 Apr 18 11.48pm

Originally posted by OhthisbloodyPC

Doesn't 'forensic' - from the latin origin - mean 'to the court'

Forensic evidence is evidence for the court.

(It's not about people in labcoats with bunsen burners and goggles)


The 'court' that the Referee's Panel reports to is "the Court of Public Opinion' where the residing judge is the biggest idiot with the loudest mouth and the shortest attention span.

"Aye, I've seen it too."


That is its etymological origin, but the meaning of a word in its original coinage meant and the meanings of words derived from it two thousand years later can be very different. For example:
Proto-Germanic *sæligas, leads to

Old English gesælig "happy, fortuitous, prosperous"
and Old High German salig "blessed, happy, blissful"

and then
modern German selig "blessed, happy, blissful"

but
modern English silly, ""feeble in mind, lacking in reason, foolish" and more recently "too f***ing close to the batsman".

 


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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 21 Apr 18 11.52pm

Thank you.

I suppose I feel a bit selig now.


Originally posted by chateauferret


That is its etymological origin, but the meaning of a word in its original coinage meant and the meanings of words derived from it two thousand years later can be very different. For example:
Proto-Germanic *sæligas, leads to

Old English gesælig "happy, fortuitous, prosperous"
and Old High German salig "blessed, happy, blissful"

and then
modern German selig "blessed, happy, blissful"

but
modern English silly, ""feeble in mind, lacking in reason, foolish" and more recently "too f***ing close to the batsman".

 

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Gribbo Flag Bromley 22 Apr 18 12.03am Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Upside from today' by Midlands Eagle

1. Another point closer to safety after a poor first half performance.
2. All the huff and puff about Wilf moving on will now hopefully die down following all the excitement after the Brighton game.
3. Cheeky is not off to the World Cup playing like he did today. Recover fully over the summer and Chelsea not getting carried away with a ridiculous fee.
4. Good servant over the past 6 years, good cover at right or left back next season, but time to move over and let AWB rake up the role.
5. Wayne to be replaced as No 1 keeper, but has done enough to merit a contract extension and provide suitable back up. I am his biggest critic, but he has played well last 5 or 6 games.
6. Thommo is an absolute rock. POTY by a mile in my book. Just hope the big boys don’t notice and come a knocking, given all the excitement over Johnny Evans last summer.

 

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peterg Flag Anerley 22 Apr 18 12.07am Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

His performance will be evaluated by a former senior referee who will scrutinise every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure his technical performance.
Match delegates consisting of former players and managers will assess the accuracy and consistency of his decision making and his management of the match.
It will be a vigorous and 'Forensic' evaluation.

I have NOT seen any of the incidents which have been discussed on here so cannot comment.

Must now 'Hit the hay' as I have a flight to catch tomorrow - going to see some games abroad before returning for the Leicester game.

"I have not seen any of the incidents so cannot comment". That's what the late great Arsene Wenger always said. Plus Willo tells us he won't be looking at them either, which saves him from having to produce an excuse for a pitiful performance by this son of Clattenburg.

 


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kentish eagles Flag 22 Apr 18 8.29am Send a Private Message to kentish eagles Add kentish eagles as a friend

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True
True
True
True
True
Spot on !!!
Onwards & upwards
Eeeeeeeeagles!

 

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laddo Flag london 22 Apr 18 8.45am Send a Private Message to laddo Add laddo as a friend

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All correct apart from Tomkins POTY. Where he is definitely a contender, the record with Wilf playing vs him not playing means he wins it for me.

 


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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 22 Apr 18 9.07am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Gribbo

1. Another point closer to safety after a poor first half performance.
2. All the huff and puff about Wilf moving on will now hopefully die down following all the excitement after the Brighton game.
3. Cheeky is not off to the World Cup playing like he did today. Recover fully over the summer and Chelsea not getting carried away with a ridiculous fee.
4. Good servant over the past 6 years, good cover at right or left back next season, but time to move over and let AWB rake up the role.
5. Wayne to be replaced as No 1 keeper, but has done enough to merit a contract extension and provide suitable back up. I am his biggest critic, but he has played well last 5 or 6 games.
6. Thommo is an absolute rock. POTY by a mile in my book. Just hope the big boys don’t notice and come a knocking, given all the excitement over Johnny Evans last summer.

Good points. RLC's best performance this season unfortunately has been in England colours. Would like to see him involved more in the attacking play such as playing in players, shooting etc. As we kept with him in Jan, we may well make a bid. However cannot see Chelski letting him go on the cheap though and they will have a new manager, so this may run for sometime. Tomkins has had a good season, just pipped by me by Luka, Wilf the other obvious stand out.

 


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