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MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 17 Jan 18 10.56am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

I think you are massively overstating bentekes impact on the team. There have been games where it felt like we were playing with 10 men. Zaha is our main man without him we'd of been dead and burried a long time ago.

Never a truer word said.

 

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 17 Jan 18 1.19pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by Beastie

“He's a 30m striker who's scored 1 goal all season. If he was in any other team in the premiership he'd be dropped”

It’s a statement and a conclusion. Clearly you were implying that that a return of 1 goal, for that money means he should be dropped. Good that you’ve realised your mistake though.

Is picking holes in the wording the best response you've got. How sad.

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 17 Jan 18 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

They were 2 seperate statements, hence the full stop.
1. He's a 30m striker who's only scored 1 goal all season. (Surely we should expect more)
2. If he was at any other premiership club he'd have been dropped.(no matter what we paid for him)
Understand now?

We are the only club in the bottom 10 with a £27m striker, only the top clubs have more expensive strikers. They can drop them, as they have more than one striker of that value or above.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 17 Jan 18 1.30pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

I think you are massively overstating bentekes impact on the team. There have been games where it felt like we were playing with 10 men. Zaha is our main man without him we'd of been dead and burried a long time ago.

That is just your opinion, you do not know and neither do I. I see the team playing well with him in it and I see him involved in goals. So do you but that is not enough for you.
I would like to know what are you blaming Benteke for and why given the players we have we would do better with him not in our team.
All you got so far is you think he is lazy and he doesn't play like you want him to .
But the team are doing well.

 

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 17 Jan 18 1.49pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

That is just your opinion, you do not know and neither do I. I see the team playing well with him in it and I see him involved in goals. So do you but that is not enough for you.
I would like to know what are you blaming Benteke for and why given the players we have we would do better with him not in our team.
All you got so far is you think he is lazy and he doesn't play like you want him to .
But the team are doing well.

I guess the question is are we playing well because of benteke or despite him. And if we had someone else would we be doing even better. That's a question we all seem divided on and we're just going around in circles. Guess we'll just have to wait until the end of thd season and see how many goals he's scored by then. Giving up on this one till then.

 

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AERO Flag 17 Jan 18 1.50pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Yes the team are doing well but could be even better .wayne Hennessy must have kicked at least 10 or more kicks to him second half and he managed to get to one ,with wilf waiting for flick on,s .He was yards away and got pushed off all to easily.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 17 Jan 18 1.54pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Yes I take you point. My rebuttal to that would be... the main differentiator is we've got Zaha!

Edited by MonsterMunch (17 Jan 2018 10.47am)

Cheers, and you are correct about Zaha, we are looking at smaller details here.

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 17 Jan 18 1.56pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

I guess the question is are we playing well because of benteke or despite him. And if we had someone else would we be doing even better. That's a question we all seem divided on and we're just going around in circles. Guess we'll just have to wait until the end of thd season and see how many goals he's scored by then. Giving up on this one till then.

Correct Spartak, and yes we should wait and see.

 

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jayjaychil Flag london 17 Jan 18 3.55pm Send a Private Message to jayjaychil Add jayjaychil as a friend

I got so bored off your constant petulant comments. I gave up readingg your last message after about 3 seconds.

Get a sense of humour and try not to feel a victim when anyone throws a bit of banter your way.

Sigh

Originally posted by chateauferret

If you've responded to losing an argument by shouting and swearing then it's you who needs to get a grip. FWIW, I'm not engaging with anyone who behaves like a spoiled toddler, so have a nice evening.


 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 17 Jan 18 4.20pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by jayjaychil

I got so bored off your constant petulant comments. I gave up readingg your last message after about 3 seconds.

Get a sense of humour and try not to feel a victim when anyone throws a bit of banter your way.

Sigh



WHAT ? WHAT DID YOU SAY ? SPEAK UP D J CHILLI

 

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premier fan Flag BR4 17 Jan 18 5.16pm Send a Private Message to premier fan Add premier fan as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He said £30 mil and Crouch. Not a straight swap.

Exactly.
Stoke free up a space for Benteke by releasing Crouch to us. We utilise him as back up while using the funds to purchase another quality striker.

We all know we have space in the squad for extra strikers. I also think Crouch can still offer us something by holding the ball up and bringing other players in. Just give him contract until may 2019

 

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Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 17 Jan 18 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Dannyh.V2 Add Dannyh.V2 as a friend

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying, the two players in question are the two players who have massively underperformed this season, however one of the players is our most expensive signing in the history of the club and highest earner, the other is one of our lowest earners at the club and only cost 3mill. I've never moaned about Hennessey for those reasons even though his performances have been equally as bad as bentekes. You also can't fault henessey s attitude and commitment, I can't say the same about benteke.

Agreed in part, however 30 million for a Striker is not unheard of, and is common place in the premier league and Europe's other top leagues. in fact if you look at what players are going for this window 28 million is almost chicken feed in comparison, and it pains me to say it, but it really is. Its an average amount for a Striker of proven ability.

Now when you look at keepers, there are only two I think, Buffon and Ederson, that where anything close to 28 Million. Manuel Neuer who is easily in the top three keepers in the world, if not the best, only cost 19 million, thats ten million less than tekkers.

Thats why your argument about how much players cost in relation to there out put on the pitch is invalid.

Now if you had compared him to Bakary Sako, who pulls up treesevery game, and who IS scoring goals and cost much much less, but IS a striker then I'd agree with you.

But to compare GK's to Striker's is daft IMO, it's not like a keeper can be lazy is it ?


Edited by Dannyh.V2 (17 Jan 2018 5.31pm)

 

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