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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 16 Nov 15 11.31pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Nov 2015 3.20pm

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Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am

Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm

But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.


I didn't bother to read Serial's posts on this topic, but I thank the fellow Hol'er that sent me this extract of his post by PM.

My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN.

Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution!

Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.


I don't understand your last paragraph. You openly admit you don't read his posts and then you address him. Hardly respectful.

Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is.

I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices.

Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.

Exactly how I see it.

Well that post and the one it responded to betrays a close minded delusion of superior morality that so many on the liberal/left seem to have.
Might I remind some that it was that kind of thinking that facilitated the situation we find ourselves in. Or is that too counter to your ideology to face up to ?

How many will have to die before we realise that opening our borders to all was a big and rather obvious mistake given our relationship with the middle east.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2015 3.21pm)

My views are a lot more in the middle than you'd think. If of course, your comment was a reply to me.

 


La la la your mum

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Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 17 Nov 15 5.39am Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Nov 2015 10.45pm

Quote Oliver at 16 Nov 2015 7.14pm

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am

Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm

But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.


I didn't bother to read Serial's posts on this topic, but I thank the fellow Hol'er that sent me this extract of his post by PM.

My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN.

Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution!

Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.


I don't understand your last paragraph. You openly admit you don't read his posts and then you address him. Hardly respectful.

Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is.

I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices.

Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.

Completely agree and avoided this thread. I take a deep breath and just remind myself it's a football supporters site.

Saw a poster say he knew nothing about Islam and then the very next sentence proceeded to spout some crap he probably heard about from a less than reputable source and then called for Muslims to he interned.


That's it, get people on your side with charm. Nice tactic.
Careful. Those noisy right wing types might be the only thing between you and ISIL one day.

But more likely, when the terrorists are on our streets, the liberal types will turn turkey and denounce their principles to save their own arses.

Amazing how an automatic weapon in the ear can change people's minds.


What evidence do you base this on or is it just your gut feeling.

 


I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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aquickgame2 Flag Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 17 Nov 15 7.26am Send a Private Message to aquickgame2 Add aquickgame2 as a friend

When the Israelis were giving it large to the Palestinians and bombing the fck out of them (rightly or wrongly thats not the point)the anti Israeli mob were out on the streets,demonstrating and showing support for the Palestinians,including many Muslims in their Arafat scarfs.

Where are these worldwide demonstrations showing solidarity for the poor victims in Paris,the refugees from Syria etc etc.....no I haven't seen them either...Mmmmm

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 17 Nov 15 8.25am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm

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Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to

 


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Hoof Hearted 17 Nov 15 9.11am

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am

Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm

But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.


I didn't bother to read Serial's posts on this topic, but I thank the fellow Hol'er that sent me this extract of his post by PM.

My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN.

Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution!

Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.


I don't understand your last paragraph. You openly admit you don't read his posts and then you address him. Hardly respectful.

Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is.

I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices.

Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.


You can't understand that I am concerned/annoyed that he has tried to get me banned from the site for stating my opinions.... that many on here agreed with and supported?

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 17 Nov 15 9.26am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

This is good

" they have guns, we have champagne , f*** them "


Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (17 Nov 2015 9.27am)

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 17 Nov 15 11.03am

Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am

Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm

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Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to


The media need to cover all aspects as well though, rather than just the negative. We focus only on what we are exposed too, rather than the daily reality

 


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Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 17 Nov 15 11.11am Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

Quote aquickgame2 at 17 Nov 2015 7.26am

When the Israelis were giving it large to the Palestinians and bombing the fck out of them (rightly or wrongly thats not the point)the anti Israeli mob were out on the streets,demonstrating and showing support for the Palestinians,including many Muslims in their Arafat scarfs.

Where are these worldwide demonstrations showing solidarity for the poor victims in Paris,the refugees from Syria etc etc.....no I haven't seen them either...Mmmmm


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Edited by Oliver (17 Nov 2015 11.54am)

 


I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 17 Nov 15 11.31am Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 16 Nov 2015 6.25pm

Quote madcap_v2 at 16 Nov 2015 2.30pm

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am

Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm

But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.


I didn't bother to read Serial's posts on this topic, but I thank the fellow Hol'er that sent me this extract of his post by PM.

My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN.

Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution!

Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.


I don't understand your last paragraph. You openly admit you don't read his posts and then you address him. Hardly respectful.

Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is.

I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices.

Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.

Exactly how I see it.

As opposed to a younger generation with foolish idealism.



I'm neither a leftie or a liberal, I just don't come on to a message board to shout loudly & frequently about something I don't fully understand but seem to have solutions.

 

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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 17 Nov 15 11.32am Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Nov 2015 9.11am

Quote Southampton_Eagle at 16 Nov 2015 11.25am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Nov 2015 10.38am

Quote serial thriller at 14 Nov 2015 2.30pm

But I'll end this post with one final remark. The rules on this forum state that any racist ethnically objectionable material will be punished. It is my belief that racism, and indeed all forms of prejudice, stem from ignorance, and what I hope I have proved is that from the almost exclusive ignorance of Hoof's post, conclusions have been reached which at best are ethnically objectionable (Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!) and at worst advocating genocide (we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!). I'd like to see the mods adhere to the rules of their own forum and warn Hoof that such views aren't welcome on here, yet particularly considering one mod has actively supported his beliefs, I'd be surprised if any of them had the guts to do so.


I didn't bother to read Serial's posts on this topic, but I thank the fellow Hol'er that sent me this extract of his post by PM.

My reaction......... how childish and pathetic.... trying to get me banned because of my hard line views that oppose his liberal views and calling me racist AGAIN.

Not content with that.... comparing my use of an analogy to that of the Nazi propaganda spokesman Goebbels speech on the final solution!

Serial.... you and others on here need to stop playing the racist card and revert to trying to convince us your arguments are superior rather than underhand tactics to try and stifle our views.


I don't understand your last paragraph. You openly admit you don't read his posts and then you address him. Hardly respectful.

Your opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else even though you seem to think it is.

I avoided this thread all weekend because emotions were high. I'm not surprised to see the chest beating bravado of the usual suspects, those of, shall we say, an older generation with ingrained prejudices.

Hol clusterf*ck thread at it's finest.


You can't understand that I am concerned/annoyed that he has tried to get me banned from the site for stating my opinions.... that many on here agreed with and supported?


You've flounced away many times & reinvented yourself. Another occassion isn't really a problem is it?

Get a life.

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 17 Nov 15 11.40am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Nov 2015 11.03am

Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am

Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm

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Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to


The media need to cover all aspects as well though, rather than just the negative. We focus only on what we are exposed too, rather than the daily reality


I certainly agree with that...lets hope it happens soon. in fact not long after I posted that I saw a video on Fbook from an (alleged) British Muslim condemning the fanatical element (swearing a lot at them) but essentially telling them that they cant expect to impart their idiologies on other nations and if they think they can to f*** off!

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 17 Nov 15 12.26pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Nov 2015 10.35am

RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968.

He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris.

Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit.

Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!

Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed?

Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS!

Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters?

These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith.

We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds.

Do we want blood on our streets?

Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" !

I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything.

I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!

Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law.

It's our choice.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am)

Post of the year. Well said Hoof and in full agreement. I am off to watch the England v France game tonight and have to admit at being a bit worried at the threat of something happening. Then i get angry that i have to feel that way in my own country. Schools have cancelled trips to Museums in London because of the threat. Why should we live this way. It is clear that ISIS needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth. They are increasing in numbers day by day and their net is spreading wider and wider. The action taken against them so far has had little if any impact. A joint and huge campaign to take them out needs to happen and fast.

 

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