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matt_himself Matataland 16 Aug 15 7.18pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 16 Aug 2015 6.58pm
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 16 Aug 15 7.49pm | |
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If Jeremy Corbyn becomes leader of the UK Labour Party, one positive consequence will be the ensuing discussion of the monetary policy transmission mechanism. That passage seems to have been mostly ignored until August 3, when Chris Leslie, Labour’s shadow chancellor, attacked the policy, which in turn led to a detailed response from the aforementioned Richard Murphy (see also here and here), at which point what seems like the bulk of the British economics commentariat erupted. Just search the internet for “Corbynomics” if you don’t believe us. And this is where the Bank of England comes in. Both of these entities, the new SME lender(s) and Bennie, would need an initial infusion of capital…By announcing a commitment to lending the initial (gilt-backed) capital for these proposed entities, assuring all that such entities if well managed can have liquidity from the central bank as needed, and publicly supporting their creation, the Bank can do a lot to fill financing and investment gap in the UK… More explicit and active cooperation between monetary policy and governmental programs to rectify our resulting investment shortfall is not only good policy, but likely to enhance the credibility and viability of our monetary regime. Our current credit allocation problems and resulting investment shortfall is one of the biggest specific barriers to recovery and to sustainable price stability in Britain. Monetary policy in the form of more QE will address this shortfall. The Bank of England, however, can and should go further than just doing more QE to remove this barrier to investment and growth in new and smaller businesses. …to Richard Murphy’s description of “People’s Quantitative Easing”: And again: Posen thought that private lenders weren’t providing credit where he believed it was needed, so he recommended creating new public investment banks that could originate and securitise loans into bonds that could then be purchased by the Bank of England, thereby funding new business investment. Corbyn/Murphy want specialised “green” investment banks, housing authorities, and local governments to be able to finance infrastructure investment secure in the knowledge that the Bank of England will be there to provide funding support. We fail to see a significant difference.
“People’s QE” is far from an obviously wrong idea. Implemented properly, it could even improve the Bank of England’s ability to fulfill its mandate without needing to goose house prices or get into contentious debates about helping the rich at the expense of pensioners. Edited by nickgusset (16 Aug 2015 7.49pm)
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matt_himself Matataland 17 Aug 15 7.19am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 16 Aug 2015 7.49pm
If Jeremy Corbyn becomes leader of the UK Labour Party, one positive consequence will be the ensuing discussion of the monetary policy transmission mechanism. That passage seems to have been mostly ignored until August 3, when Chris Leslie, Labour’s shadow chancellor, attacked the policy, which in turn led to a detailed response from the aforementioned Richard Murphy (see also here and here), at which point what seems like the bulk of the British economics commentariat erupted. Just search the internet for “Corbynomics” if you don’t believe us. And this is where the Bank of England comes in. Both of these entities, the new SME lender(s) and Bennie, would need an initial infusion of capital…By announcing a commitment to lending the initial (gilt-backed) capital for these proposed entities, assuring all that such entities if well managed can have liquidity from the central bank as needed, and publicly supporting their creation, the Bank can do a lot to fill financing and investment gap in the UK… More explicit and active cooperation between monetary policy and governmental programs to rectify our resulting investment shortfall is not only good policy, but likely to enhance the credibility and viability of our monetary regime. Our current credit allocation problems and resulting investment shortfall is one of the biggest specific barriers to recovery and to sustainable price stability in Britain. Monetary policy in the form of more QE will address this shortfall. The Bank of England, however, can and should go further than just doing more QE to remove this barrier to investment and growth in new and smaller businesses. …to Richard Murphy’s description of “People’s Quantitative Easing”: And again: Posen thought that private lenders weren’t providing credit where he believed it was needed, so he recommended creating new public investment banks that could originate and securitise loans into bonds that could then be purchased by the Bank of England, thereby funding new business investment. Corbyn/Murphy want specialised “green” investment banks, housing authorities, and local governments to be able to finance infrastructure investment secure in the knowledge that the Bank of England will be there to provide funding support. We fail to see a significant difference.
“People’s QE” is far from an obviously wrong idea. Implemented properly, it could even improve the Bank of England’s ability to fulfill its mandate without needing to goose house prices or get into contentious debates about helping the rich at the expense of pensioners. Edited by nickgusset (16 Aug 2015 7.49pm) What's it's saying is theoretically it could work if Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell don't, among other things, give into ideological whims, the economy is right and they have some luck. Just remember theoretically a toddler could fight and beat one of the Klitshco brothers - if the conditions were right and the toddlers opponent had a heart attack before blows were exchanged. No sale. The above is just theory and comes with too many caveats. Go back to my previous - and unanswered question - do you think Corbyns economics stack up Gusset? No need for links, we have plenty of those. What is your view?
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Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2015 7.19am
Quote nickgusset at 16 Aug 2015 7.49pm
If Jeremy Corbyn becomes leader of the UK Labour Party, one positive consequence will be the ensuing discussion of the monetary policy transmission mechanism. That passage seems to have been mostly ignored until August 3, when Chris Leslie, Labour’s shadow chancellor, attacked the policy, which in turn led to a detailed response from the aforementioned Richard Murphy (see also here and here), at which point what seems like the bulk of the British economics commentariat erupted. Just search the internet for “Corbynomics” if you don’t believe us. And this is where the Bank of England comes in. Both of these entities, the new SME lender(s) and Bennie, would need an initial infusion of capital…By announcing a commitment to lending the initial (gilt-backed) capital for these proposed entities, assuring all that such entities if well managed can have liquidity from the central bank as needed, and publicly supporting their creation, the Bank can do a lot to fill financing and investment gap in the UK… More explicit and active cooperation between monetary policy and governmental programs to rectify our resulting investment shortfall is not only good policy, but likely to enhance the credibility and viability of our monetary regime. Our current credit allocation problems and resulting investment shortfall is one of the biggest specific barriers to recovery and to sustainable price stability in Britain. Monetary policy in the form of more QE will address this shortfall. The Bank of England, however, can and should go further than just doing more QE to remove this barrier to investment and growth in new and smaller businesses. …to Richard Murphy’s description of “People’s Quantitative Easing”: And again: Posen thought that private lenders weren’t providing credit where he believed it was needed, so he recommended creating new public investment banks that could originate and securitise loans into bonds that could then be purchased by the Bank of England, thereby funding new business investment. Corbyn/Murphy want specialised “green” investment banks, housing authorities, and local governments to be able to finance infrastructure investment secure in the knowledge that the Bank of England will be there to provide funding support. We fail to see a significant difference.
“People’s QE” is far from an obviously wrong idea. Implemented properly, it could even improve the Bank of England’s ability to fulfill its mandate without needing to goose house prices or get into contentious debates about helping the rich at the expense of pensioners. Edited by nickgusset (16 Aug 2015 7.49pm) What's it's saying is theoretically it could work if Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell don't, among other things, give into ideological whims, the economy is right and they have some luck. Just remember theoretically a toddler could fight and beat one of the Klitshco brothers - if the conditions were right and the toddlers opponent had a heart attack before blows were exchanged. No sale. The above is just theory and comes with too many caveats. Go back to my previous - and unanswered question - do you think Corbyns economics stack up Gusset? No need for links, we have plenty of those. What is your view? Please refrain from 'badgering' posters and just repeatedly asking the same question. Clearly the poster agrees with Corbyn. This is not Newsnight.
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matt_himself Matataland 17 Aug 15 9.04am | |
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I Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Aug 2015 8.44am
Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2015 7.19am
Quote nickgusset at 16 Aug 2015 7.49pm
If Jeremy Corbyn becomes leader of the UK Labour Party, one positive consequence will be the ensuing discussion of the monetary policy transmission mechanism. That passage seems to have been mostly ignored until August 3, when Chris Leslie, Labour’s shadow chancellor, attacked the policy, which in turn led to a detailed response from the aforementioned Richard Murphy (see also here and here), at which point what seems like the bulk of the British economics commentariat erupted. Just search the internet for “Corbynomics” if you don’t believe us. And this is where the Bank of England comes in. Both of these entities, the new SME lender(s) and Bennie, would need an initial infusion of capital…By announcing a commitment to lending the initial (gilt-backed) capital for these proposed entities, assuring all that such entities if well managed can have liquidity from the central bank as needed, and publicly supporting their creation, the Bank can do a lot to fill financing and investment gap in the UK… More explicit and active cooperation between monetary policy and governmental programs to rectify our resulting investment shortfall is not only good policy, but likely to enhance the credibility and viability of our monetary regime. Our current credit allocation problems and resulting investment shortfall is one of the biggest specific barriers to recovery and to sustainable price stability in Britain. Monetary policy in the form of more QE will address this shortfall. The Bank of England, however, can and should go further than just doing more QE to remove this barrier to investment and growth in new and smaller businesses. …to Richard Murphy’s description of “People’s Quantitative Easing”: And again: Posen thought that private lenders weren’t providing credit where he believed it was needed, so he recommended creating new public investment banks that could originate and securitise loans into bonds that could then be purchased by the Bank of England, thereby funding new business investment. Corbyn/Murphy want specialised “green” investment banks, housing authorities, and local governments to be able to finance infrastructure investment secure in the knowledge that the Bank of England will be there to provide funding support. We fail to see a significant difference.
“People’s QE” is far from an obviously wrong idea. Implemented properly, it could even improve the Bank of England’s ability to fulfill its mandate without needing to goose house prices or get into contentious debates about helping the rich at the expense of pensioners. Edited by nickgusset (16 Aug 2015 7.49pm) What's it's saying is theoretically it could work if Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell don't, among other things, give into ideological whims, the economy is right and they have some luck. Just remember theoretically a toddler could fight and beat one of the Klitshco brothers - if the conditions were right and the toddlers opponent had a heart attack before blows were exchanged. No sale. The above is just theory and comes with too many caveats. Go back to my previous - and unanswered question - do you think Corbyns economics stack up Gusset? No need for links, we have plenty of those. What is your view? Please refrain from 'badgering' posters and just repeatedly asking the same question. Clearly the poster agrees with Corbyn. This is not Newsnight. Deleted. Edited by matt_himself (17 Aug 2015 9.12am)
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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Aug 15 10.06am | |
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Such a refreshing change from the suited, spin doctoring, bland politics of the last 20 years. Wouldn't have minded if it had been a rabid Thatcherite that had come to the fore on the other side rather than Jeremy C either just to shake things up a bit. Farage was/is a fake so he never got my balls tingling. Let's hope Corbyn wins the vote.
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leggedstruggle Croydon 17 Aug 15 11.19am | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Aug 2015 10.06am
Such a refreshing change from the suited, spin doctoring, bland politics of the last 20 years. Wouldn't have minded if it had been a rabid Thatcherite that had come to the fore on the other side rather than Jeremy C either just to shake things up a bit. Farage was/is a fake so he never got my balls tingling. Let's hope Corbyn wins the vote. Farage fake? You mean he really likes the EU and wants us to stay in it while it sucks all its members down to catastrophe like a black hole.
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johnfirewall 17 Aug 15 11.41am | |
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Just sounds like a fluke to me. What he's tried to do is appeal to the clueless youth who relentlessly talk about the banks and creation of money, conveniently providing funds for their other absurd ideals of having the state own everything. Are we really giving him the credit for 'people's QE' getting some support from genuine economists who point out that short term debt issuance is a viable solution? Any entity in the world would benefit from low rate borrowing.
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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Aug 15 11.57am | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Aug 2015 10.06am
Such a refreshing change from the suited, spin doctoring, bland politics of the last 20 years. Wouldn't have minded if it had been a rabid Thatcherite that had come to the fore on the other side rather than Jeremy C either just to shake things up a bit. Farage was/is a fake so he never got my balls tingling. Let's hope Corbyn wins the vote. Farage fake? You mean he really likes the EU and wants us to stay in it while it sucks all its members down to catastrophe like a black hole.
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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 17 Aug 15 1.47pm | |
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Amused to see that the smear wagon is in full steam against Corbyn now. If he really, really is such a deluded fruit loop, surely it's easier to give him the rope with which he can hang himself! Or is the Establishment worried that he'll strike a few too many chords with the plebs? Can't have that, can we?
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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 17 Aug 15 7.04pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 17 Aug 2015 7.19am
Quote nickgusset at 16 Aug 2015 7.49pm
“People’s QE” is far from an obviously wrong idea. Implemented properly, it could even improve the Bank of England’s ability to fulfill its mandate without needing to goose house prices or get into contentious debates about helping the rich at the expense of pensioners. Edited by nickgusset (16 Aug 2015 7.49pm) What's it's saying is theoretically it could work if Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell don't, among other things, give into ideological whims, the economy is right and they have some luck. Just remember theoretically a toddler could fight and beat one of the Klitshco brothers - if the conditions were right and the toddlers opponent had a heart attack before blows were exchanged. No sale. The above is just theory and comes with too many caveats. Go back to my previous - and unanswered question - do you think Corbyns economics stack up Gusset? No need for links, we have plenty of those. What is your view?
Sure, it's dependent on the quality of their judgement about investment - or those of the Bank of England. One could argue that they'd hardly do any worse than the rest of the banks did - all those bailouts and so on. Certainly, they'd need to be some workings involved - but I'd wager the alignment with the ideas of serious economists is a good start point, no? What would you suggest would be more credible? Edited by tome (17 Aug 2015 7.05pm)
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leggedstruggle Croydon 17 Aug 15 8.38pm | |
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There is nothing wrong in Corbyn becoming leader of the Labour party as such. It would mean there is a real choice for the electorate instead of all the parties fighting for the centre ground. However, it is very unlikely that he would ever get into power with his policies. But a protest style party of opposition would be quite healthy.
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