You can’t negotiate with Putin. Time will tell who will win. Only make bold statements when the game is over. Crystanbul

I don't agree with that.

There was a genuine chance of an agreement in March as press releases stated agreements had been reached in specific areas....Zelensky asked to negotiate with Putin himself.

However, now it looks like both have settled for battlefield results due to the western desire to prolong the war to the last conscripted Ukrainian.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Jun 2022 11.59am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

We’ll there you go. It’s not up to the west to dictate Ukr terms, even the French, Italians and Germans understand this now. Putin takes no notice of law and is a bully and hence Ukr need weapons and to be in a position of strength.

Putin only starts wars to increase his popularity back home when he struggles in the polls.

If the Ukraine was involved in this war alone I'd agree with that.

I don't think that's the reality of what happens in life once money and investment is involved.

'He who pays the piper calls the tune' is an ancient idiom because it is true and you are seeing its iteration here.

I don't agree with the idea that Putin can't be negotiated with, I think that's propaganda from our side because they want the war to continue.

I've been following the war.....personally I don't think the Ukraine have enough experienced troops to push back the Russians now....they have lost much of their best troops....Personally I think you would need to commit western armies to defeat the Russians.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Jun 2022 12.17pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Putin takes no notice of rules and won’t negotiate until forced to, when Ukr has near parity in heavy weapons or the upperhand. It’s nothing to do with what the west want. It’s Ukraine who asks for aid and artillery - to fight for their survival

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