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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 8.54pm
Originally posted by W12 Violence is the ultimate authority. If you back people into a corner that’s what you are going to get. There is a huge amount of evidence to suggest mass voting fraud especially in the most important states. Trumps base can see this and also see that the entire media machine and even the neo-cons in their own party are willing to look the other way. At the same time there is equally clear evidence of the Bidens taking money from Ukraine but especially China and then there is the hard drive from hell (which Barr knew about and suppressed) . Add to this 4 years of the democrats bringing completely unfounded allegations of “Russian colllusion”, the nothing burger impeachment, the disgusting treatments of Flynn and others, Jussie Smollett, the kid demonised in the MAGA hat. This list is endless. That’s not me advocating for violence which I think is what you are suggesting. You create the conditions for violence and that’s what you get. ‘Evidence’ Which you, of course, have seen in person. Anyone who says Biden is clean is an idiot. But the way you drone on it’s as though Trump and the republicans are the second coming. Amazing isn’t it that partisan obsessives can’t stop to look in the rear view mirror once in a while. You just sound bitter, unbalanced and desperate Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 8.54pm

Originally posted by W12

Violence is the ultimate authority.

If you back people into a corner that’s what you are going to get.

There is a huge amount of evidence to suggest mass voting fraud especially in the most important states. Trumps base can see this and also see that the entire media machine and even the neo-cons in their own party are willing to look the other way. At the same time there is equally clear evidence of the Bidens taking money from Ukraine but especially China and then there is the hard drive from hell (which Barr knew about and suppressed) . Add to this 4 years of the democrats bringing completely unfounded allegations of “Russian colllusion”, the nothing burger impeachment, the disgusting treatments of Flynn and others, Jussie Smollett, the kid demonised in the MAGA hat. This list is endless.

That’s not me advocating for violence which I think is what you are suggesting.

You create the conditions for violence and that’s what you get.

‘Evidence’

Which you, of course, have seen in person.

Anyone who says Biden is clean is an idiot. But the way you drone on it’s as though Trump and the republicans are the second coming. Amazing isn’t it that partisan obsessives can’t stop to look in the rear view mirror once in a while.

You just sound bitter, unbalanced and desperate

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 8.55pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I made the point that the entire point of an election is that almost half of the people don't have a say following the result. No-one is gaslighting. If you're going to say - while emotional - "The only solution then would be to seek recourse in a more direct way. Sometimes that's the only solution" then reply to a post asking you what you mean by inferring that your own post could be perceived to be aligned with out of bounds acts or groups that's all on you. I don't much care either way to be perfectly honest. Edited by BlueJay (14 Dec 2020 6.12pm) Indeed Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 8.55pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I made the point that the entire point of an election is that almost half of the people don't have a say following the result.

No-one is gaslighting. If you're going to say - while emotional - "The only solution then would be to seek recourse in a more direct way. Sometimes that's the only solution" then reply to a post asking you what you mean by inferring that your own post could be perceived to be aligned with out of bounds acts or groups that's all on you. I don't much care either way to be perfectly honest.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Dec 2020 6.12pm)

Indeed

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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W12 14 Dec 20 8.59pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC ‘Evidence’ Which you, of course, have seen in person. Anyone who says Biden is clean is an idiot. But the way you drone on it’s as though Trump and the republicans are the second coming. Amazing isn’t it that partisan obsessives can’t stop to look in the rear view mirror once in a while. You just sound bitter, unbalanced and desperate Triggered!
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W12 14 Dec 20 8.59pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

‘Evidence’

Which you, of course, have seen in person.

You just sound bitter, unbalanced and desperate

Triggered!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.05pm
Originally posted by W12 No I don't at all. How can you have democracy when you cannot vote for who runs the news media, Hollywood, the university's and schools, the police and judiciary, corporations and NGO's, social media etc. Because that's where the actual power sits. You vote for people who will change those things you don't like. You engage. You convince. You stop complaining and you get involved. And if you fail you accept. Ignore the democratic route to change and you end up with more of the problems you don't like, but in the hands of a dictator. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.05pm

Originally posted by W12

No I don't at all.

How can you have democracy when you cannot vote for who runs the news media, Hollywood, the university's and schools, the police and judiciary, corporations and NGO's, social media etc.

Because that's where the actual power sits.

You vote for people who will change those things you don't like. You engage. You convince. You stop complaining and you get involved. And if you fail you accept.

Ignore the democratic route to change and you end up with more of the problems you don't like, but in the hands of a dictator.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 9.15pm
Originally posted by W12 Triggered! LOLE It’s called debating - not avoiding the counter arguments entirely Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 14 Dec 20 9.15pm

Originally posted by W12

Triggered!

LOLE

It’s called debating - not avoiding the counter arguments entirely

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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W12 14 Dec 20 9.20pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You vote for people who will change those things you don't like. You engage. You convince. You stop complaining and you get involved. And if you fail you accept. Ignore the democratic route to change and you end up with more of the problems you don't like, but in the hands of a dictator. We are already in a dictatorship. If you oppose the tenants of equality inclusion and diversity then you will be silenced, threatened and potentially imprisoned.
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W12 14 Dec 20 9.20pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You vote for people who will change those things you don't like. You engage. You convince. You stop complaining and you get involved. And if you fail you accept.

Ignore the democratic route to change and you end up with more of the problems you don't like, but in the hands of a dictator.

We are already in a dictatorship. If you oppose the tenants of equality inclusion and diversity then you will be silenced, threatened and potentially imprisoned.

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 20 9.21pm
I think the evidence with modern day democracy is in. The west is clearly moving towards a coordinated model. Before globalism it was a different dynamic, now actual conservatism is regarded as 'far right' or 'dissident right'. People should be able to live within the systems they feel comfortable within......No one should be permanently made to accept beliefs alien to them. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Dec 20 9.21pm

I think the evidence with modern day democracy is in.

The west is clearly moving towards a coordinated model.

Before globalism it was a different dynamic, now actual conservatism is regarded as 'far right' or 'dissident right'.

People should be able to live within the systems they feel comfortable within......No one should be permanently made to accept beliefs alien to them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.25pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Blimey you weren't singing this song after the referendum. welcome to the club, respect the vote. Did you read ALL I wrote? If not I suggest you do so. Referendums are not part of our democracy. That was, and is, vested in Parliament. All the opposition to the referendum was centred on Parliament doing its duty and refusing to accept it or, at the very least, putting it back to the people for confirmation once the various realities became obvious. Why should Parliament refuse to accept the result? Because our security forces found interference at a level that meant the result could not be trusted. The Parliamentary Committee investigated and made a report which Johnson squashed just before the 2019 election and has still not published. So no I wasn't singing this song. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.25pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Blimey you weren't singing this song after the referendum. welcome to the club, respect the vote.

Did you read ALL I wrote?

If not I suggest you do so.

Referendums are not part of our democracy. That was, and is, vested in Parliament. All the opposition to the referendum was centred on Parliament doing its duty and refusing to accept it or, at the very least, putting it back to the people for confirmation once the various realities became obvious.

Why should Parliament refuse to accept the result? Because our security forces found interference at a level that meant the result could not be trusted. The Parliamentary Committee investigated and made a report which Johnson squashed just before the 2019 election and has still not published.

So no I wasn't singing this song.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think the evidence with modern day democracy is in. The west is clearly moving towards a coordinated model. Before globalism it was a different dynamic, now actual conservatism is regarded as 'far right' or 'dissident right'. People should be able to live within the systems they feel comfortable within......No one should be permanently made to accept beliefs alien to them. Aircraft are still flying. Other countries are available. "Go fund me" support might be organised. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think the evidence with modern day democracy is in.

The west is clearly moving towards a coordinated model.

Before globalism it was a different dynamic, now actual conservatism is regarded as 'far right' or 'dissident right'.

People should be able to live within the systems they feel comfortable within......No one should be permanently made to accept beliefs alien to them.

Aircraft are still flying. Other countries are available.

"Go fund me" support might be organised.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.35pm
Originally posted by W12 We are already in a dictatorship. If you oppose the tenants of equality inclusion and diversity then you will be silenced, threatened and potentially imprisoned. Don't be silly! No dictatorship would accept the type of dissension we see every day on here and elsewhere. If ever you really lived under one I think you would realise just how lucky we all are now. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 20 9.35pm

Originally posted by W12

We are already in a dictatorship. If you oppose the tenants of equality inclusion and diversity then you will be silenced, threatened and potentially imprisoned.

Don't be silly!

No dictatorship would accept the type of dissension we see every day on here and elsewhere.

If ever you really lived under one I think you would realise just how lucky we all are now.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 14 Dec 20 9.40pm
I'm English. This is my birthright as it was my ancestors before me. Unless something drastic happens I will die here, however my sons will be young men and new starts may be an option. You on the other hand...if you are in fact genuinely English/British, are a traitor to your ancestors and if there is an afterlife, no doubt an embarrassment to them. Conversing with you just gives me a superiority complex. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2020 9.40pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

14 Dec 20 9.40pm

I'm English.

This is my birthright as it was my ancestors before me.

Unless something drastic happens I will die here, however my sons will be young men and new starts may be an option.

You on the other hand...if you are in fact genuinely English/British, are a traitor to your ancestors and if there is an afterlife, no doubt an embarrassment to them.

Conversing with you just gives me a superiority complex.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2020 9.40pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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W12 14 Dec 20 9.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm English. This is my birthright as it was my ancestors before me. Unless something drastic happens I will die here, however my sons will be young men and new starts may be an option. You on the other hand...if you are in fact genuinely English/British, are a traitor to your ancestors and if there is an afterlife, no doubt an embarrassment to them. Conversing with you just gives me a superiority complex. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2020 9.40pm) Deus Vult
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W12 14 Dec 20 9.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm English.

This is my birthright as it was my ancestors before me.

Unless something drastic happens I will die here, however my sons will be young men and new starts may be an option.

You on the other hand...if you are in fact genuinely English/British, are a traitor to your ancestors and if there is an afterlife, no doubt an embarrassment to them.

Conversing with you just gives me a superiority complex.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Dec 2020 9.40pm)

Deus Vult

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