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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.41am
Originally posted by HKOwen You are genuinely fecking deluded, the FBI had no intention if making their search public so they turned up in force fully armed. You win, there is no arguing with an insane idelogue. Edited by HKOwen (14 Aug 2022 4.11am) I imagine being prepared for resistance is a standard procedure for the FBI when conducting an unannounced search. They must expect to be able to demand total and immediate compliance. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.41am

Originally posted by HKOwen

You are genuinely fecking deluded, the FBI had no intention if making their search public so they turned up in force fully armed.

You win, there is no arguing with an insane idelogue.

Edited by HKOwen (14 Aug 2022 4.11am)

I imagine being prepared for resistance is a standard procedure for the FBI when conducting an unannounced search. They must expect to be able to demand total and immediate compliance.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.46am
Originally posted by cryrst Under resourced. Labour were in power when it came to light. I don’t think an under resourced police force fits their MO. It was because they were Muslim or non white men. Clear as day it was avoided in the hope it was a case of mistaken identity and racial tensions weren’t stirred up. Even the families never reported on their husbands, brothers, dads etc. the religion came first and white girls second ! At least you recognise some of the issues facing the police and social services. The over-riding priority, I hope, was to try to stop this happening. Doubtless, that meant tacking the issues at both ends and from several directions. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.46am

Originally posted by cryrst

Under resourced. Labour were in power when it came to light. I don’t think an under resourced police force fits their MO. It was because they were Muslim or non white men. Clear as day it was avoided in the hope it was a case of mistaken identity and racial tensions weren’t stirred up. Even the families never reported on their husbands, brothers, dads etc. the religion came first and white girls second !

At least you recognise some of the issues facing the police and social services. The over-riding priority, I hope, was to try to stop this happening. Doubtless, that meant tacking the issues at both ends and from several directions.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.48am
Originally posted by Badger11 The point of the green levy is to raise money to fund green energy project by taxing the poor. As I said I am not a climate change denier I am a green tax denier. The government can fund these green projects from other sources and really help the public. For example they could demand that energy companies increase the amount of investment or simply transfer the green tax onto them whilst ensuring they don't pass it on to the public. Or as I indicated the government could make savings elsewhere and use that to fund it. I regard the green levy as in the same category as the community charge (poll tax). It enables people to understand where their money is being directed and why. Even if you give it to them, to give back to you, in the first place. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.48am

Originally posted by Badger11

The point of the green levy is to raise money to fund green energy project by taxing the poor. As I said I am not a climate change denier I am a green tax denier. The government can fund these green projects from other sources and really help the public.

For example they could demand that energy companies increase the amount of investment or simply transfer the green tax onto them whilst ensuring they don't pass it on to the public.

Or as I indicated the government could make savings elsewhere and use that to fund it.

I regard the green levy as in the same category as the community charge (poll tax). It enables people to understand where their money is being directed and why. Even if you give it to them, to give back to you, in the first place.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.51am
Originally posted by Badger11 There has now been multiple independent reports into the various northern scandals e.g. Rotherham etc. The common thread in the conclusions to these reports are that the police, social services, councils and local politicians chose to ignore the many warnings. I am not aware of a defence that the police had a plan I think that is wishful thinking on your part. Common sense suggests that many police forces apparently adopting the same approach suggests that there was a national strategy lying behind it. We may never know whether that's true. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 8.51am

Originally posted by Badger11

There has now been multiple independent reports into the various northern scandals e.g. Rotherham etc. The common thread in the conclusions to these reports are that the police, social services, councils and local politicians chose to ignore the many warnings.

I am not aware of a defence that the police had a plan I think that is wishful thinking on your part.

Common sense suggests that many police forces apparently adopting the same approach suggests that there was a national strategy lying behind it. We may never know whether that's true.

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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Aug 22 9.00am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Common sense suggests that many police forces apparently adopting the same approach suggests that there was a national strategy lying behind it. We may never know whether that's true. Now you are just making this up. If there was a strategy then why do these reports not say that and then criticise the strategy as well intentioned but wrong. They don't they say complainers were ignored and action was not taken. Sorry I have gone off topic here, back to Trump "Orange man bad" Edited by Badger11 (14 Aug 2022 9.02am) One more point
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Beckenham 14 Aug 22 9.00am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Common sense suggests that many police forces apparently adopting the same approach suggests that there was a national strategy lying behind it. We may never know whether that's true.

Now you are just making this up. If there was a strategy then why do these reports not say that and then criticise the strategy as well intentioned but wrong. They don't they say complainers were ignored and action was not taken.

Sorry I have gone off topic here, back to Trump "Orange man bad"

Edited by Badger11 (14 Aug 2022 9.02am)

One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 1.32pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Now you are just making this up. If there was a strategy then why do these reports not say that and then criticise the strategy as well intentioned but wrong. They don't they say complainers were ignored and action was not taken. Sorry I have gone off topic here, back to Trump "Orange man bad" Edited by Badger11 (14 Aug 2022 9.02am) I am trying to use common sense, something that a few here seem to think I don't possess, whilst those in my own circle think I have in abundance. This is often a very odd corner of the world, though. I do agree though that we need to get back to US politics. There is enough there to keep our attention. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 22 1.32pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Sorry I have gone off topic here, back to Trump "Orange man bad"

Edited by Badger11 (14 Aug 2022 9.02am)

I am trying to use common sense, something that a few here seem to think I don't possess, whilst those in my own circle think I have in abundance. This is often a very odd corner of the world, though.

I do agree though that we need to get back to US politics. There is enough there to keep our attention.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 12.48am
To save keystrokes if I cannot exercise enough self control to resist replying to your drivel I shall just use an acronym. DIPAG Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 12.48am

To save keystrokes if I cannot exercise enough self control to resist replying to your drivel I shall just use an acronym.

DIPAG

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 22 9.26am
Originally posted by HKOwen To save keystrokes if I cannot exercise enough self control to resist replying to your drivel I shall just use an acronym. DIPAG It's such a pity that you don't heed the advice you post at the bottom of your comments! They are the wisest words you have written here. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 22 9.26am

Originally posted by HKOwen

To save keystrokes if I cannot exercise enough self control to resist replying to your drivel I shall just use an acronym.

DIPAG

It's such a pity that you don't heed the advice you post at the bottom of your comments! They are the wisest words you have written here.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 9.31am
dipag Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 9.31am

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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 10.27am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's such a pity that you don't heed the advice you post at the bottom of your comments! They are the wisest words you have written here. We are in agreement DIPAG Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 15 Aug 22 10.27am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's such a pity that you don't heed the advice you post at the bottom of your comments! They are the wisest words you have written here.

We are in agreement DIPAG

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 22 1.15pm
Originally posted by HKOwen We are in agreement DIPAG . Changing the bottom comment, which then updates all the earlier one, might seem clever, to an immature dickhead. Actually it’s pathetic! Especially as it as true of me as it is of everyone else . Including you! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 22 1.15pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

We are in agreement DIPAG

Changing the bottom comment, which then updates all the earlier one, might seem clever, to an immature dickhead.

Actually it’s pathetic!

Especially as it as true of me as it is of everyone else . Including you!

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