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 NickinOX  Sailing country. 03 Dec 16 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
But,then,when it comes to Castro and the wider politics of the Us trying to undermine and topple him for 50 years,you give it nil weight...ho hum... Yes, trying to get rid of a brutal dictator by using some sanction. Frightful! I still find it funny that you think it's ok to praise a mass murderer, but criticise others for for doing the same. A plague on both their houses.
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 Hrolf The Ganger  03 Dec 16 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
But,then,when it comes to Castro and the wider politics of the Us trying to undermine and topple him for 50 years,you give it nil weight...ho hum... Why would the United States do anything else to an ally of the USSR, on their doorstep, during the cold war? Are you a Russian sympathiser?
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| legaleagle 04 Dec 16 12.05am |
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That's plain silly,no? He only went towards the Soviet Union after the USA started trying to kick him out...how very uncivil of him actually trying top give his country some independence in the US backyard. Kind of a Cubexit of its time Thought you were in favour of national sovereignty being asserted over superstate hegemony?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Dec 16 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
That's plain silly,no? He only went towards the Soviet Union after the USA started trying to kick him out...how very uncivil of him actually trying top give his country some independence in the US backyard. Kind of a Cubexit of its time Thought you were in favour of national sovereignty being asserted over superstate hegemony? The US was in a war against communism. I would imagine that this was part of a battle against the ideology as much as a nation or individual. Remember that there was a witch hunt within the US to root our "commies" so this attitude is hardly inconsistent. It was never going to be a match made in heaven.
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| legaleagle 04 Dec 16 12.40pm |
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No,Castro wasn't any kind of "commie" when the US started to try and oust him...just wanted to kick out the mafia and stop Cuba being America's largest brothel... Castro's only "threat" at the time was that he might serve as a beacon for other Carribbean and Central American nations to emulate...
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| cantrbury eagle Canterbury 04 Dec 16 12.56pm |
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must admit to being a bit lazy but has anyone seen Corbins childhood home o how he must have struggled in his 5 bedroom detached manor house.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Dec 16 1.34pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
No,Castro wasn't any kind of "commie" when the US started to try and oust him...just wanted to kick out the mafia and stop Cuba being America's largest brothel... Castro's only "threat" at the time was that he might serve as a beacon for other Carribbean and Central American nations to emulate... Well you might argue terminology but the US would almost certainly seem him as such. He has been described as leftist, anti-imperialist and Marxist–Leninist so that clearly puts him at odds with America. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Dec 2016 1.35pm)
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| legaleagle 04 Dec 16 1.58pm |
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Well,we will have to disagree about the "good reason" bit. He kicked out the US' dodgy stooge...clearly they couldn't have that kind of thing prospering and happening further in their backyard...as events in Chile showed 10-15 years later and in Grenada in the 80's..and going back to the US invasion of Guatemala in 1954 to protect the interests of the United Fruit Company...
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Dec 16 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Well,we will have to disagree about the "good reason" bit. He kicked out the US' dodgy stooge...clearly they couldn't have that kind of thing prospering and happening further in their backyard...as events in Chile showed 10-15 years later and in Grenada in the 80's..and going back to the US invasion of Guatemala in 1954 to protect the interests of the United Fruit Company... Well if it is a discussion about morality then I don't think anyone can claim victory. There wasn't much between Batista and Castro in that department. Batista was at least democratically elected originally, not that it excuses the coup, but you have to see these things in the contest of the times. The US had a self serving agenda and I would support that all day long against the alternative. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Dec 2016 2.34pm)
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| legaleagle 04 Dec 16 3.49pm |
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We will very much have to agree to differ
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 04 Dec 16 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
No,Castro wasn't any kind of "commie" when the US started to try and oust him...just wanted to kick out the mafia and stop Cuba being America's largest brothel... Castro's only "threat" at the time was that he might serve as a beacon for other Carribbean and Central American nations to emulate... AND nearly start a nuclear war if you know your history !
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| matt_himself Matataland 06 Dec 16 7.42am |
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Interesting article:
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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