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 Eden Eagle  Kent 27 Jun 24 6.26am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
£400 bn? Are you sure? That’s about 12.5% of our GDP! I think you might mean £4bn! Still stupid money to waste though. As stated the covid costs are estimated around the £400 billion figure or approx £6,000 for every adult and child in the UK. And people wonder why the country is broke and that tax rises are needed! Madness…
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| Eden Eagle Kent 27 Jun 24 6.28am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
OMG this nonsensical drum is being banged again? Those determined to never understand will remain in a bubble of ignorance. It’s not the survival rate we achieved that matters. It’s the death rate we would have seen without taking the measures we did, plus the impact on our health services, which would have resulted in many more deaths. The impact was bad enough, as we have seen, but it could have been much, much, worse:- Just responding to your misinformation that there was “no known cure” when in fact the survival rate was 99.90%.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 27 Jun 24 6.32am |
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The people that maximised their own personal profit, whether by honours, or hard cash, are now long gone over the horizon.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jun 24 8.13am |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
As stated the covid costs are estimated around the £400 billion figure or approx £6,000 for every adult and child in the UK. And people wonder why the country is broke and that tax rises are needed! Madness… We were talking about the amount destroyed, not the overall spend! Anything destroyed is always regrettable but it happens. You don’t eat out of date food and we all find we have some from time to time. Plans are rarely perfect.
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Teddy Eagle  27 Jun 24 8.25am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We were talking about the amount destroyed, not the overall spend! Anything destroyed is always regrettable but it happens. You don’t eat out of date food and we all find we have some from time to time. Plans are rarely perfect. I wasn't. Didn't the figures indicate that? But just taking the total wasted doesn't reflect well on the planning involved.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jun 24 8.28am |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
Just responding to your misinformation that there was “no known cure” when in fact the survival rate was 99.90%. Explain to us what cure existed for Covid when it first emerged. The fact that any infection is survivable by most doesn’t mean there is a cure! A cure is a medical intervention. What enabled the high level of survival wasn’t a cure. It was the preventative measures which reduced the levels of infection and the nursing care which helped their own immune systems fight the infection in those who required hospitalisation, together with the efforts made to protect the clinicians so they they remained functional and able to help others. What the death rate would have been without these interventions is unknown but would certainly have been higher, probably much higher and possibly so high that our economy would have collapsed. No country can take such a risk.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jun 24 8.33am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I wasn't. Didn't the figures indicate that? But just taking the total wasted doesn't reflect well on the planning involved. Not with hindsight but I recall the panic at the time with stories about world shortages and countries trying to outbid each other. It’s easy to forget how frightened everyone was back then. Not the know it alls of course. They always know better.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Jun 24 8.57am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not with hindsight but I recall the panic at the time with stories about world shortages and countries trying to outbid each other. It’s easy to forget how frightened everyone was back then. Not the know it alls of course. They always know better. £13.6 bn spent on PPE with £9.9 bn of it written off by January this year doesn't show that the experts knew any more than anyone else.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Jun 24 9.12am |
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Government Covid spending? Move on. Nothing to see here.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jun 24 9.27am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
£13.6 bn spent on PPE with £9.9 bn of it written off by January this year doesn't show that the experts knew any more than anyone else. No one was an expert on Covid! The expertise was on health care generally and assessing worst case scenarios and how to prepare for them. Which they did, taking the decisions they did at the time they took them with the limited knowledge they had available. Getting things wrong was always likely. Getting them right as likely as hitting the bull with your eyes shut. Imagine the furore if we had under ordered and millions had died. Of course it looks bad, especially as poor storage looks to have been a significant contributory factor.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Jun 24 9.31am |
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If I recall the priority at the time was cutting red tape and getting the job done. That’s what happens. Making a turn from taking risks..
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Jun 24 9.44am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No one was an expert on Covid! The expertise was on health care generally and assessing worst case scenarios and how to prepare for them. Which they did, taking the decisions they did at the time they took them with the limited knowledge they had available. Getting things wrong was always likely. Getting them right as likely as hitting the bull with your eyes shut. Imagine the furore if we had under ordered and millions had died. Of course it looks bad, especially as poor storage looks to have been a significant contributory factor. This isn't about Covid. It's about procurement processes and pandemic planning.
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