don't get personal. Why did you think this was aimed at you ?

I disengage, I turn the page.

Wasn’t it? Most such comments here seem to be.

The sentiments are accurate whether it was or not.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

It's entirely correct and you are entirely incorrect. You clearly know nothing at all about this. Your lack of actual engagement is like arguing with a bot. I can't be bothered with it. You are completely one eyed and bias. Have a proper look into it, and have some self reflection if you wish to talk about reflections. Something is clouding your judgement, I have no skin in this game. I don't know who you think you are to insult my intelligence with your utter rubbish. You must work for the BBC. Who funds them? Who are their pay and incomes linked to? Is there any point asking? Are you BBC's version of Chat GPT? Did you even notice the investigation into the paedophilia and cover ups? Certainly, you are the epitome of useful idiot.

Red and Blue Army!

Lol - he knows everything about everything. I’ve come to the conclusion that there is nothing he’s not an expert on. He’s a grown up version of that kid at school, you know the one!

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I just thought there was perhaps some reasoning and debate possible. The Saville enquiries and the fact that the BBC is a public service organisation have obviously passed him by. I thought the whole reason people defend the BBC is it's public service status, but it must simply be that it's anti Trump and anti Brexit if these opinions are anything to go by. I thought I made decent points but was obviously completely wrong. Judge, jury and executioner appointed. I also saw Teddy Eagle was treated with the same contempt when pointing out simple facts with evidence so there's obviously a reason.

Red and Blue Army!

I would agree with you regarding the World Service's reputation....though, as with me, it's often something people talk about rather than listen to....Not so perhaps with the other stations as the political culture has also touched them.

It should be remembered that most of the world outside of the west is not accelerated neo and social liberalism....And that is very much what the BBC sells.

You're correct that....pretty much the majority of anyone calling themselves a conservative have both a mistrust and dislike of the BBC, the further right they are the greater the disquiet.

It should also be noted that a large proportion of conservatives would rip the Equality Act to shreds as it's little more than a conduit to destroy most of what they believe in. Mentioning that it's been the Tories who have both pushed and implemented all these policies isn't lost on conservatives.....We don't own our party, just like most grass roots Labour people don't own theirs....Both parties are globalist and donor owned and treat their base with contempt.....At most they throw them unwanted scraps like Roman emperors at a feast.

I don't know much about that, but it sounds like a regrettable policy.

On Thatcher you're going back approximately thirty years. The BBC still at that time was far more politically diverse than it is now....parts of it were small 'c', while you would get your geniune political opposition as you mention.

Those times are long behind us.

I can point to Brexit, Covid and the Ukraine war as three recent events where the BBC didn't only restrict and in some cases defacto ban alternative opinions but they actively supported governmental policy by becoming a mouthpiece.

They did not balance the genuine opposition opinions to all of these positions to anything like a reflective reality of what was going on.

As a last word on this aspect, Tim Davie himself has admitted that the BBC has a 'liberal bias', while some might say that's an understatement, others might also ask why is a publicly funded body been allowed to become politically slanted.

I'm afraid the future of the BBC has been decided, it's mostly unspoken knowledge to many. It's losing fee payers, it lost the right a long time ago and...well, the far left hate everything other than the far left. It only really exists for old people and liberals.

I shouldn't over emphasize the political I suppose even though it's tempting but essentially the Internet and how the young consume that dreaded word, 'content' is killing it anyway. Once the boomers are gone so shall it be.

Mistakes were made years ago that now would require major surgery to fix and it just wouldn't happen. The left and practical realities of technology have killed the BBC and like the Titanic, it's just a matter of time and frantic hand waving before it eventually slips below the waves.....at least in anything like the structure it is now.

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